TOPIC: Jack Martin

shane Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #1

shane
Can someone explain to me the difference between this and drafting tampering?

www.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-11/jack-martin


CARLTON'S gaping salary cap hole in 2020 will see pending recruit Jack Martin demand around $1million for his first season in navy blue.

Martin delisted himself from Gold Coast on Monday, nominating terms for a new home in the upcoming NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

It is believed the five-year contract request is valued at close to $650,000 per season.
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Dockermus Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #2

Dockermus
You’re asking a rhetorical question, Shane.
Carlton are a big part of the sleazy AFL establishment.
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hypen Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #3

hypen
He has a right to set his price and Melbourne can match it if they so desire. You seem to think it’s cheating cause Carlton are exploiting salary cap room.
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shane Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #4

shane
The way I read it is that Carlton are creating room in their salary cap so they can front load a deal for him. He then set his price way above market value, which no one else can afford because they weren't involved the backroom deal to free up salary cap space.

It's not like he's just setting his price high. He's setting his first year price at Nat Fyfe levels and then taking a paycut for the next 4 years. For the sole intent of manipulating who will draft him.

I don't know the actual rules around this but I think all clubs should have equal access to a player who nominates for the draft, on legitimate terms. Everyone looks the other way when it's a bit of fiddling on the sides but this is so blatant, for the AFL not to act is to condone it.
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Raglan Matt Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #5

Raglan Matt
I think it is like the difference between purple & "man purple", Shane, it is dependent on where you are looking at it from, and in what light.
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pollyanna Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #6

pollyanna
Of course Gold Coast could ask the AwFL for a one-off hand out of an extra million just to keep Jack up there for a year. In my thinking that's much more likely to happen than Gill taking on the backroom mob on Lygon Street.
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hypen Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #7

hypen
Carlton will just argue superior list management allowed them to do this. Prospective player and club have a right to set the terms as you know. The silly bit is the requirement for another club to match the specifics of the deal as distinct from the same pay over the same contract period, that's the piece that needs tightening I reckon.
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expat Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #8

expat
Yep, too right Polly. After all, Gold Coast are the beggars of the AFL and regularly receive handouts...
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Matebe Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #9

Matebe
To add, Melbourne, who have a pick earlier than Carlton in the pre-season draft, are interested in Martin but he is reportedly refusing to meet with them.
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Raglan Matt Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #10

Raglan Matt
Now that, Matebe, is when it strays from "man purple" territory into draft tampering territory.
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hypen Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #11

hypen
Yep, that’s not the system at work.
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Grub Jack Martin 1 month 2 days ago #12

Grub
Jack might have gone to the Brad Hill school of management and Carlton might regret it when the young fella requests a trade home ((for personal reasons) right about the time his pay gets cut.
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