TOPIC: Hands in the back rule

rogerrocks Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #1

rogerrocks
I've been puzzled by the changes to the rule on when/how you are able to push a player in the back in a marking contest. And it occurs to me that the simplest way of officiating this rule would be to say that you can push all you want if the player is stationary or moving backwards, but that you cannot push a player in the back at all if they are leading towards the ball.
I think this is more or less how the umps see it now, but it would be nice to have it in black and white so that we don't give away a free for "pushing too hard in a marking contest".
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Raglan Matt Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #2

Raglan Matt
I don't normally agree with stuffing around with the rules, RR, but that is a great idea. As long as the umpires all have the same idea of what forward motion is.
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freo00 Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #3

freo00
And who you play for ?
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shane Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #4

shane
There were some pretty bad pushes in the back by Eagles during the derby. Even Luke McPharlin would have been embarrassed by those.

I'd always rather they had to miss a few because they were in the wrong spot than they went back to paying free kicks to players who weren't infringed on.

Check out the holding the ball rule though. It was pointed out to me that it looks like they've decided to ignore the rule and just pay kicks for incorrect disposal, regardless of prior opportunity.
I'm sure it's much easier to adjudicate but it's not the rules.
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rogerrocks Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #5

rogerrocks
Holding the ball when you haven't had prior opportunity is interesting. If its held to you, then you are fine. But if they just grab you by one arm, then if you don't get a kick away, you are toast. In theory, you just have to try and dispose of it legally, so with no prior and one arm held, if you try and get a kick away, you should be ok - but its not the sort of thing I'd bet on.
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shane Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #6

shane
That's the rule but that's not how they're umpiring at the moment.
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hypen Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #7

hypen
We always do this though, we complained about the absoluteness of the hands in the back rule and now we are complaining when the kick is not paid. Such an AFL thing to do. Take that McInerny infringement, obviously not a free kick, but only when you have seen it from the proper angle. The umpires don't have the best angle always so they made a rule that a hand in the back is a penalty. I thought it was actually working after years of dissent. So here we go again.
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Raglan Matt Hands in the back rule 1 month 3 weeks ago #8

Raglan Matt
I think most of us are disappointed at the selectiveness of the application of the law, Hypen, just like we are disappointed at the selectiveness of the interpretation of "force" and "impact" by the MRP. ( Poor Harris)
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