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Detox Would you 1 month 1 week ago #29

Detox
Yes I agree that Darcy has been better so far (mainly because he is a lot physically stronger) - but fast forward 2 years and I reckon Tim English will be much better.. I realise this is just speculation but when he gets big enough not to get man handled he will dominate.
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Bizkit Would you 1 month 1 week ago #30

Bizkit
That comes back to my original point on what kind of ruckman you want. Do you want a bull like a Sandi or Mumford (Darcy) who isn't as good at getting around but monsters the clearances or a runner like Cox or Kreuzer (English) who concedes a bit in the ruck but links up well around the ground?

There's high value in both so it's a perception thing and for me, English probably has further to go to get to the elite level where he's contributing enough as a link man to ignore tap losses. Darcy however is already a bit of a monster (as he did to Grundy in rd 23 last year with 35 hit outs to 34 as a 19yo) and can get fit and move around the ground far easier than English can grow a frame to compete in the ruck.
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hypen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #31

hypen
I’ll have some of that Bizkit. English whilst a bit of a freak athlete is not the desired ruckman for me. We get excited when ruckmen move like midfielders, but why not let midfielders do that?

What you want from a ruckman is first use of the ball and a marking option up the line. Darcy all the way for me.
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slammen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #32

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I would happily trade Darcy for English in a straight swap, Biz is making alot of allowances for Darcy but none for English, in two years time English will be the next Max Gawn/ Grundy, if we don't get the trade done this year it won't be a straight swap.

Englishes stats mirror Gawns and Grundy's at the same part of their career, he will get alot better at ruck playing and training with Lobb ,he'll bulk up in the next year or two and he's a WA kid (no go home factor), I think we could easily play Lobb and English in the same team and our team would be fast and mobile.

At this point the bulldogs would love a ruck to win hit outs and that's why Darcy is their man, I really like Darcy but English is the future for Freo.
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hypen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #33

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Never a good sign when the future of your club doesn’t actually play for your club.
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Morgan Would you 1 month 1 week ago #34

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I reckon this one's easy. If Darcy wants to stay long-term stick with him.

Now for something more difficult: would you rather get a hug from Ross Lyon or have to wear Steve Rosich's clothes for a week?
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Corporal Agarn Would you 1 month 1 week ago #35

Corporal Agarn
You're a sick man Morgan. (shivers down spine stuff)

I'd prefer to keep Darcy and draft a ruckman/forward like that young Jackson. Would be handy if he was, but I can't see Cox doing this role.
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hypen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #36

hypen
Steve is a very fashionable middle aged man.
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Bizkit Would you 1 month 1 week ago #37

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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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hypen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #38

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He'll just get more hugs which is great.

One other thing Bizkit, I've been meaning to tell you.

SPS is a dud.
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purple kit Would you 1 month 1 week ago #39

purple kit
That may be so Hypen, but at least he gets a game every week which more than you can say for Cam Mac or Logue which was effectively the trade.
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Davo Would you 1 month 1 week ago #40

Davo
We discussed Darcy vs English a month ago. Glad some of you have caught up.

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Should you have both Lobb and English in the same team? Sure you could play one at CHF and one in the ruck but I think you either take English or you take Lobb and leave Darcy in.

English at the moment is getting slaughtered in the ruck.
R10: Goldstein 57 hit outs, English 7. Roos by 25 points.

I wouldn't trade Darcy for English but he would be an interesting chip in any trade for Kelly or Coniglio. You'd be forced to get another ruckman from somewhere then.

My prediction is Freo will not get Kelly, Coniglio or English. So Sean can stay and be 1st ruck with Lobb and Taberner helping out.
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Bizkit Would you 1 month 1 week ago #41

Bizkit
I don't see us getting any of those 3 for many reasons and I hope we don't because I have no doubt we'd get bent over the table in order to secure just one of them, sacrificing the rest of our list.

Hypen, why would you provoke me like this, is it because we are battling it out this round in the DuFFLe?!

I'm not sure how much you've watched SPS but he's been one of Carlton's few good stories this year as he's moved more into a midfield role and averaged 20 touches and 5 tackles a game.

Obviously the Blues have been getting belted which makes it much harder to possess and use the ball but you'll see him do fantastic things each game. When the Blues have won, he's been instrumental (gathering 35 touches and a goal in the Dogs win and 24 touches and 7 marks against the Lions). As the Blues win more games and share the ball around more, you'll see him become a superstar of the competition.
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hypen Would you 1 month 1 week ago #42

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You seen my team, Bizkit? All I've got is junk talk.
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