TOPIC: Hodge in trouble?

Walter the baker Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #71

Walter the baker
Back to you question Shane.

"Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Port Adelaide Football Club, the incident was assessed as careless conduct with medium impact to the head. "

The bit I have a problem with is "careless". That Impact seemed more like "intentional" to me. He wasn't trying to go for the ball or to brace himself for a collision. He clearly intended to bump his opponent with significant force/impact (see the look on his face in the still image). There wasn't much that was "careless" about it. Ballas would have got minimum four down to three.

As an aside, do we know if he mate Brad Sewell stepped aside for the hearing?
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rogerrocks Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #72

rogerrocks
I thought that if you elected to bump, careless was no longer an option?
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SaltyDog Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #73

SaltyDog
I'm sure if there was any apprehended bias he would have disqualified himself from the panel

As an aside, does anyone know if he will be speaking at this years Hawthorn fundraiser?
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shane Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #74

shane
It's more likely that Hodge was trying to bump Wingard and caught him high than he was trying to hit him in the head with his elbow and missed.

And it's exactly the same penalty Fyfe got for the same thing last year.
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rogerrocks Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #75

rogerrocks
So Shane, that just leaves the problem that it wasn't "in play" because the ump had blown his whistle. Isn't there a loading for doing stuff "not in play"?
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shane Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #76

shane
I don't know if that's a thing but I think you're stretching to say it was behind the play.
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Raglan Matt Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #77

Raglan Matt
The whistle had gone while Hodge wrestled with the Port player in the goalsquare, Wingard chased the ball through the behind line, so the ball was "dead. Wingard had the right not to expect ANY contact. Shane I think Hodge was going for the elbow to the head, the shoulder into the goalpost was the failsafe backup option. Hodge's expression as he ran at Wingard was one of a man intending to inflict as much physical damage to Wingard as possible. How that was ANY less intentional and out of the play than what Silvagni did last week I can not fathom. A disgraceful performance by the MRP who should have at least referred it straight to the tribunal in the first place. Apologies to Alister Nicholson, blind rage does interfere with the ability to remember names sometimes.
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Morgan Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #78

Morgan
Wingard was certainly acting as if he was in play.
Three down to two is about right.

I reckon it would be an interesting exercise to go back to every time someone said 'because it's Freo he'll get [insert harsh penalty].' Let's call it the Hyperbole Test. I reckon collectively you're batting about 13% accuracy. Which, for context, is above Hackdorn, but below Joe Hockey.

Ballas was the only one people got right, and that's because it's Ballas.
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Raglan Matt Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #79

Raglan Matt
Wingard has relaxed and given up on the contest a couple of steps before Hodge hit him. The straight comparison with Silvagni's penalty says Hodge should get 5 weeks, no remission as he is a serial offender.
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point less Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #80

point less
if the post was not padded it would have been a very serious incident.
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expat Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #81

expat
If that was Masten in Hodges shoes, he would have swooped down and given him a love bite to the neck.
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rogerrocks Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #82

rogerrocks
Morgan raises a good point. We need a penalty sweep. After each match we put forward our best estimate of the number of weeks for each incident. Run it like a tipping comp.
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Docker by the Sea Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #83

Docker by the Sea
Going to throw it out there, the tribunal gives different penalties based on who offends. Both Fyfe and Hodge got off lightly because of who they are.
Had Matt Deboer been involved in the same incident as Fyfe and no impact on possible Brownlow would he have received at least a fine.
I have tried to view the Hodge incident in another light but in watching it numerous times I fail to see why Hodge could not have pulled out of the bump and the whistle had blown well before the bump. Based on the rule as posted on here, where the severity can be assessed against possible outcome, this penalty is light. Would a lower profile player with less impact on finals series the likely outcome have been given the same consideration.
IMO they both were negligent in their responsibility to the safety of the player. How would this conversation go had Wingard broken his neck.
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larkin Hodge in trouble? 4 years 3 months ago #84

larkin
Every now and again in life all your doubts crystallise in a kind of brilliant flash of light and you see clearly what you always feared. That moment came to me when today he got an inconsequential two week holiday pre finals. It reminded me of a discussion I had some years ago with an former international umpire and then a national umpire coach who gave his life long passion away after it dawned upon him the corruption in his chosen sport. ( I wrote about it here pre Esslington drama) I'm seriously wondering if I will bother renewing my membership next year.
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