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careyg Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #1

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I notice with angst that Alex Rance was not reviewed at all by the MRP. His hit to the head of Clancee Pearce with 13mins to go in the 2nd qtr was not even reviewed and dismissed. The commentators at the time reviewed it and just laughed it off.
How do you make jokes about a player being hit in the head by another player running at full speed to make a contest?
Heads up collective arses maybe. Everyone worried about players feelings but dont worry about protect the head anymore, if your a docker player anyway.
But those same idiots would have made a call for a review if it had been Nathan Fyfe. Clancee had 2 hands to the ball and was struck in the head and was so affected he passed off the ground rather than take the kick he had earned. If nothing else then why not fifty. Luckily the big umpire in the sky was watching over us and we got the win despite biased umpiring, commentating and match reviewing. Clearly it will be a miracle if Fyfe ends up with the brownlow this year.
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Morgan Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #2

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Miracles normally pay a bit better than $1.60.
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careyg Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #3

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When he was asked by Pav on TV would he or rather play footy or kite surf Fyfe chose kite surfing and jokingly remarked that there's no match reviews for kite surfing. He is slowly falling victim to the awfl 's psychological abuse. After he clashed heads early last year he was like......what the?
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shane Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #4

shane
Most people would rather go kite surfing than go to work.
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careyg Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #5

careyg
Footy pays better too I guess
richmond now +71 frees for the year
freo at negative 28
weazels at +49 Thats no surprise.

When people say we were lucky to win against the tiges I just think it wasnt luck.
we had one hand tied behind our back for most of the day and still got up.
The umpires even started paying us frees to disadvantage, they have a million weapons in their bag
Maybe we could bribe someone in the AFL just to have a level playing field
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Raglan Matt Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #6

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Interesting that Fyfe thinks he is safer with the bronzies and white pointers than he is with the AwFL umpires and MRP. Just confirms what we all think of them. On the other point, how many Freo players have been collected high this year with no umpire or MRP penalty? It is becoming more and more obvious that their is blatant cheating of the MRP and the laws of the game to suit the agenda of the AwFL, Media rights holders ( Fox and CH 7) and possibly as well corporate bookies.
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DockerKnockers Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #7

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Collingwood, Richmond and Hawthorn are the heavyweights of the AFL.
They have the greatest members and bring in the biggest crowds.
Many of those adjudicating and having influence on players and game outcomes are being paid by the revenue that is largely reliant on the success of those AFL heavyweights.
The more I understand about such facts as free kicks, club memberships and crowd numbers the more I accept it is just what it is.

Fyfe was cited by the MRP for his hit on Duryea (vs Hawks) and rightly so. It was pretty easy to see Fyfe went in harder than required. But he collected Duryea with the softer part of his arm. Had he struck Duryea with his fist, it could have been very harmful. As it was Duryea got a sore nose (not sore enough for it to bleed) and he got up, got 50m penalty and continued to play ok (until a separate later incident).
Rance does the same thing to C. Pearce. The differences are the impact was more from the side than front on. The impact with a fist to the head rather than the softer forearm to the face. IMO both were done with the same intent. Rance was not going for the ball. He is skilful enough to hit the ball and not C.Pearce's head if he wanted to. The result, no 50m and not even an MRP review.
Then you look at Mitchell's case, at least 3 suspect at best, deliberate at worse, knees to players. Fyfe has been injured and affected by Mitchell's actions for over 3 weeks. Yet Mitchell gets a $1000 fine.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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Docker by the Sea Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #8

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Commentary and the media clearly control the game. I posted,earlier that we were having a good run with the umps until the Essendon game, at this point article was written questioning whether we were getting the rub of the green, since the we have lost all but 1 free kick count. This was responded to saying how come this didn't apply to west coast well 3 weeks ago similar articles were written, has anybody watched their last 2 games. Commentators this year defended Fyfe like I have never seen a docker defended before no suspensions touch wood. Media state pay the obvious frees and Lo and behold we have an outbreak of free kicks last week.
This is why anyone that believes that the game can be opened up and mad better to watch by tinkering with interpretation of existing rules is kidding themselves. The solution is something that can't be changed week to week on a whim. Limit interchange.
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RideoftheVagaries Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #9

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Isn't the "Limit interchange" solution most strongly advocated by those same overbearing commentators?
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bpurple Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #10

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Way back in time when Australia had a car industry and Pies were cheap food at the footy and not some gourmet experience, I played a bit of footy. At that time you only had two on the bench, there was no limit to rotations but due the low number of players able to be rotated, this took care of itself. It meant you played for much longer in a game and therefore had to play within your physical capabilities. This in turn meant you relied far more on your football skills to be effective rather than playing the basketball up and down the court style played now. Take two off the bench and watch the game change back to a more skilled positional type of affair, rather than the all in under tens brawl it is now. Imagine watching Fyfe with the time and space he would be afforded playing one on one. Not saying modern footballers are not skilled but they in my opinion are stifled somewhat because of the flood style of game plan they must follow. I don't like the idea of set zones that you cant cross out of, but having watched my daughter play netball, I marvel at the speed the game is played at and the one on one nature of the contest. Wish footy was like that.
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RideoftheVagaries Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #11

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Zones would set up some pretty awkward scenarios out on the footy field, but at least they're more likely to lead to a reduction in congestion around the footy and in forward halves. Severely limiting or getting rid of interchange as it is now, is only guaranteed to bring greater fatigue. Changes to interchange numbers automatically leading to a reduction in congestion doesn't stand up to logic.
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Raglan Matt Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #12

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DBTS if the AwFL is serious about the "pay the obvious free kick" drive, they will

I) Pay the obvious free kick to all players on all teams
ii) Instruct the umpires to do it every week every season
iii) Back the umpires when the inevitable screams of outrage come from the media and coaches
iv) Simplify the laws of the game so the umpires, players and fans can understand why free kicks are paid.
v) Instruct the umpires not to bounce the ball if they can pay a free kick

After a week or 2 of 70 or 80 free kicks a game, coaches will demand their players take a laws of the game book home and don't come back to training til they understand it, then we will get back to a 20 to 30 free kicks a game, and way less ball-ups scenario and a much more open spectacle
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bpurple Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #13

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R ofthe V it would only lead to more fatigue if the game were played in the same style as it is now. Limiting the number of the bench at two means that the team who decided they were going to run around like manic dogs for a quarter would be stuffed after a bout half time. The team that held its positions, played within themselves for four quarters would slaughter them in the second half. I hear you say but this means slowing the game down. Only if you try to maintain the rolling maul as it is now, you can still move the ball kicking to dedicated positions on the field and using the midfielders as midfielders at massive speed using skill, by foot or hand, rather than a tangled mass of humanity. I have trouble listening to people say the game is now faster than it used to be when game after game, I watch the ball tied up in a pocket or on a wing, for three to five minutes only to have it come racing down the field after a turnover to get to CHF and have players stop dead in their tracks because there is no one in the forward line to kick to. We go sideways and it starts all over again. The best game I have watched this year was round one us V Port, and it is the closest I have seen to "old fashioned" football in years.
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RideoftheVagaries Commentators Control the Game 9 years 1 month ago #14

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bpurple I would forecast the game to continue on as it does today. The current clogging of the game didn't come about because the coaches decided "Oh, wow what are we going to do with all these reserves of energy from interchanges? I know, I'll use them to swarm around the contest!" The interchanges became a way of making the extra numbers around the ball more effective, because getting more players where the ball is is a strategy that works really well. In the scenario of minimal or zero interchanges, if one team decides to save their energy it is likely to become like a game of chicken as one team sends more players to the contest at the start of a game when they're fresh, because of the superior numbers they start to win more contests slam on more goals, what do you think the other coach is going to do? Wait and hope as the other team draws away? Then as the game draws on, the team with the lead would start to find ways to slow the game down, no matter how ugly it gets, so they can hang on.
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