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TOPIC: Quota System

shane Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #1

Every few years the Victorian teams struggle to make any impact on the competition. When you're next big hope is Richmond, then you're in a bad way. Most people around Australia see this as a sign that the competition is healthy and growing and inclusive but the Victorians seem to view it as a sign that we'll all be rooned before the year is out.

And so here we go again
These are sobering times for AFL administrators, who at the conclusion of a 2014 season that could on many levels rightly be called a stinker, essentially issued a mea culpa to the fan base.

What it may now be discovering, however, is that a convergence of factors and the gradual erosion of the faith of the traditional fan base has resulted in a perfect storm, which continues to bucket down troubled waters.

Two-thirds of the way through the premiership season there's not a huge amount of evidence that the disillusioned are flocking back to their sporting church.

After 66 games to date at the three Victorian venues – the MCG, Etihad Stadium and Geelong's Simonds Stadium – crowds are nominally up on the same stage of last year, by a total of just 27,500.

Bla bla bla...rugby...bla bla bla...soccer...bla bla bla we'll all be rooned

Here's what I propose. Every year we establish a quota of 2 Victorian teams in the top 4. It doesn't matter how good they are, it doesn't matter how many games they lose, they always get the top 2 spots on the ladder.

This way, the rest of the country don't have to listen to them whinging about the state of football, we don't have to deal with ridiculous rule changes that seem to suit the strengths of one particular team and we can all get on with enjoying seeing our team win without the need for umpires to even thing out.

I suspect Fremantle may have already come up with their own version of this, and dropped games to Richmond and Hawthorn because if those two teams were sitting in 6th and 8th right now, the league may well be dissolved before we get a shot at beating the Swans for the flag.
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rogerrocks Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #2

Geez, the AFL are apologising to the fans. Can I suggest they come over here and apologise for taking us for granted?

But speaking of being taken for granted, I believe the attendance at the Carlton game was under 34,000. (Hey, look, don't correct me, I'm just telling you what I believe it was.) Imagine 34,000 people in our new 60,000 seat stadium. Actually don't. Imagine under 30,000 - because prices will go up a lot, so there will be less of us. The AFL need to pull their finger out and fix this before it happens.

And can I just suggest that maybe attendances like that are because we are taken for granted? As a top 4 side from last year, why don't we play all the other top sides twice this year. As a super-duper bonus from the AFL Sydney had to come here to play us. But then to compensate a bit we play the Hawks in north antarctica. Given last season, surely you'd want to have us playing Sydney, Hawthorn and Port twice? I know that means Melbourne have to play the Carlton twice, but you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.

AFL, you may have noticed that not many people turn up to our Melbourne games. Would that not suggest to you that you need to pump us up a bit? I mean, you can hardly get people excited at the prospect of going to watch Essendon, so how about you tell them how good we are? Tell 'em about Walters, Mayne, Pav, Hill, etc. Hey, even make them hate Ballas some more - anything, but just generate more interest in our games.
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Corporal Agarn Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #3

Corporal Agarn
I'm okay with that Shane. I propose Melbourne & Carlton for the top four.
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shane, finalport, Raglan Matt said You Beaut

Drubbing Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #4

2 Vic teams in the top 4 each year? I think you'll find the umps are doing their best to meet that quota.
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shane Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #5

Yeah but if you had a quota they could umpire fairly and our enjoyment of the game increase.

My theory is that the inability of the Victorians to win games of football is making the football less entertaining, through their cheating and whinging and re-jigging the rules to suit themselves.

So all we have to do is remove the requirement for Victorian teams to win games of football to be successful.
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careyg Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #6

And further on the inequality of the equality here are the total free kick stats for the year to date for all games and clubs.

Interesting to note that West Coast and Richmond are massive winners, which suggests it doesnt matter how we play against Richmond because they have been anointed for 2015 and we will have to again be good enough to beat the opposition and the umps.
Extracted from Table in the Link
Richmond frees for is a massive 350 and only 285 against
Wet toast frees for 271 and a miniscule 218 against
Its kind of confirming what Ive felt for a while now, that its not all in my head.
I dont need a psychiatrist after all
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docker_man Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #7

Top 8 and free kick differential
Fre -21
WC +53
Haw +9
Syd -41
Rich +66
WB +3
GWS -5
Ade -4

Tigers have received 86 more frees than average side
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Corporal Agarn Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #8

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What????? This is a scandal. An absolute disgrace that needs to be investigated immediately......................................

You mean to say there is a team getting a better deal than the slime. This cannot be and must be rectified before slime supporters burst their poop chutes.
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docker_man Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #9

Top 8 and rank in tackles laid
Fre 13th
WC 16th
Haw 11th
Syd 2nd
Rich 18th
WB 3rd
GWS 8th
Ade 15th
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The_Yeti Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #10

Is it just me DM, or do all of the Victorian sides have a + in the free kick column and all the non Victorian sides have a - next to their name. *

Boy its lucky we have an AFL with an Integrity Unit instead of a VFL with a Coverup Unit.

*I'm counting the slime as a Victorian team because I refuse to acknowledge they have anything to do with WA (apart from polluting the place)
Egurls Suck!
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Drubbing Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #11

The tackles laid stat seems to kill off the idea the team first to the ball gets more frees.
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rogerrocks Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #12

Not so much Drubbing. After all, if Richmond lay the least tackles in the comp, it is probably because they have the ball more often. So they get more frees. Of course in Richmond's case, it could be a chicken and egg argument - do they get more frees because they have the ball a lot, or do they have the ball a lot because they get more frees?
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Raglan Matt Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #13

Raglan Matt
All good but what intrigues me from that table, is that Geelong and Freo both have 282 frees against, but a look at the averages show Freo are looked after by the umps, having only 18.8 frees paid against them a game, while poor old Geelong are victimised be Margetts, Razor Ray and co to the tune of 20.1 frees against per game. With rocket surgeons like this analysing the game, it's no wonder they cant understand Roly's press conference hints that all is not fair and equitable in the AwFL.
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WAL Quota System 4 years 1 month ago #14

Geelong have played 1 less game.
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