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TOPIC: Umpiring

Sunny Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #1

Sunny
UNBELIEVABLE!
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rogerrocks Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #2

rogerrocks
The number of times a bad decision or a bad non-decision led to a goal against us was unbelievable.
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Freofred Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #3

Freofred
Time to succeed from the afl every week we get smashed in the frees count. Let's go with a super league were Freo supplies the umpires and McManus is coaching umpire.
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Raglan Matt Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #4

Raglan Matt
It is quite believable actually, it has been happening for years.
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rogerrocks, DockerKnockers said You Beaut

Matebe Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #5

Matebe
Is it really worth complaining about the umpiring? If it had've been better we'd probably lose by 10 goals, not 15
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exceed Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #6

exceed
if you think the umpiring is the cause of the humiliation, than that is simply not true.
Well balanced side , great skills , a forward line and 2 solid ruckmam are why the hawks are the best.
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purple kit Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #7

purple kit
you really can't play against this umpiring, feel really sorry for the boys when the oposition can have the ball, drop it in the takle then get a free for being held without it. just shattering.
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rogerrocks Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #8

rogerrocks
Good to see that the umpires are showing no signs of fatigue at the start of the 4th.
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Raglan Matt Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #9

Raglan Matt
Fyfe and Hill scragged out of the game in the first quarter, yet the frees are 8 to 1 against Freo. It is a pretty good indication of how things are going to end up.
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DockerKnockers Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #10

DockerKnockers
Over recent weeks, to better understand Freo's supposed form slump, I have made a habit of reviewing goals and how Freo and the opposition are scoring them. For example, in this game R15 HA v FR, for each Hawks goal, I record who got the goal, who was responsible for the i50 and the possessions that lead to the Hawk goal from the last stoppage or Freo possession.

Of Hawthorn's first 11 goals, 9 included umpiring decisions where Hawthorn were given a dubious free kick, or Freo were simply denied justice and free kicks were ignored. The other two goals were due to poor Freo disposal/turnovers/defense (namely goal 5 - Mzungu turnover and goal 6 De Boer tournover).
Goals 12 onwards was a different story. Goal 12 was just a quality centre clearance from Hawthorn resulting in a Hale contested mark and goal. Goals 13-17 were from poor Freo disposal causing a turnover or poor defensive pressure.

Prior to the game, I believed Hawthorn was the best team in the competition and their initial odds of $1.50 was ridiculously good value. Hawks had won (in Tassie) their last 12 games in a row with an average % of 191. I considered a plunge, but I just cannot bet against a side I support.

If you think umpires cannot make that much difference in a game, I disagree. After all, why did Freo start favourites at Subi last year and beat the Hawks ... I would suggest because it's far less likely for the umpires to do what they just did at a Subi home game.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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rogerrocks Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #11

rogerrocks
And the problem is that once the umps get the upper hand, you lose confidence. Fyfe stops thinking he can crash through, in case he gets a htb against him. Players start worrying about high contact and their tackling gets weaker. You worry about giving away a 50 if you are late the marking contest, so you ease up and don't get there.

The umps would not dare do that at Subi. Some of their non-decisions could have triggered a pitch invasion. Some of their, "No, you can't play on" would have led to the management hiring extra security guards.
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Docker by the Sea Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #12

Docker by the Sea
At the end of round 6 Essendon win distinctly remember having a conversation with a friend regarding how favourably the umpires had been treating us so far winning 4 of the 6 free kick counts. At this point in time if there were dubious ones they fell our way and vice versa. This same week The Wistle Blowers article on AFL.com mentioned how well we were being looked after, and low and behold we have won 1 free kick count since. Last week against the Lions by 1 kick. Free kicks are not neccessarily to blame, But do they contribute to momentum swings and lack of confidence?
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Corporal Agarn Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #13

Corporal Agarn
There's also been plenty of talk about the favoured treatment The Slime get every week but nothing's changed there.
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Docker by the Sea Umpiring 8 years 11 months ago #14

Docker by the Sea
Agreed corporal, I am perplexed would like to understand the discrepency. The stats don't lie over the last 2 years must be frustrating to play each week.
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