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TOPIC: Hawthorn Racism Review

blockerhall Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #141

blockerhall
So, Hypen, just for you, last 3 national drafts, indigenous draftees high schools- all care on research, no responsibilty.

2021: 6/65 indigenous
Pick 11- Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera- Seaview High School, SA- Public
Pick 27- Jesse Motlop, Hale School, WA- Private
Pick 43- Arthur Jones, Wesley College, WA- Private
Pick 47- Marcus Windhager- Haileybury College, Vic-Private
Pick 54- Eric Benning- East Kimberley College- Public
Pick 60- Jase Burgoyne- Henley High School, SA- Public*

2020: 5/51 indigenous
Pick 1- Jamarra Ugle-Hagan- Scotch College, Vic-Private
Pick 16- Lachie Jones, SA- not known, likely Public
Pick 24- Blake Coleman- Bayside State College-Qld- Public.
Pick 42- Phoenix Spicer- Henley High School, SA- Public*
Pick 51- Maurice Rioli Jnr.- Scotch College, Vic- Private

2019: 4/59 indigenous
Pick 9- Liam Henry, Chistchurch Grammar School, WA-Private
Pick 12- Kysaih Pickett- Prince Alfred College, SA- Private
Pick 37- Keidean Coleman- Bayside State College-Qld- Public.
Pick 60- Jy Farrar- Hale School, WA- Private

15/175 indigenous last 3 ND's. 8/15 out of 'expensive' private schools(4/5 from WA).

2 more out of Henley High School in SA, which run a specialist sports AFL program , and have defeated allcomers in SA's Open division for umpteen years. In fact they are looking to play Vic sides next year in comp. So they vacuum potential private school players out of the system in SA-WA has no public school equivalent, only the PSA. Lukosius and Rankine hail from there.

Plus 2 brothers out of the NT that boarded away in QLD and were drafted through the Lions academy.

Effectively the outliers are Wanganeen-Milera, with obvious AFL links, Lachie Jones, and our own NGA Roy Benning, keeping the dream alive.
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shane Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #142

shane
This is just sad.
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hypen Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #143

hypen
Blockerhall, you initially defended PSA schools in terms of them producing aboriginal AFL talent.

I made the point they don't produce, they acquire that talent for their gain. Not out of community obligation.

Not too sure what your post proves or disproves.
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blockerhall Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #144

blockerhall
Hypen, seriously. In fact, I made no such claim, if you care to actually read what I posted. And in the context, my initial statement, and the following evidence, is actually very very relevant, as Shane's sadness highlights.
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hypen Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #145

hypen
Maybe I've read things incorrectly. Apologies.
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blockerhall Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #146

blockerhall
Cheers. TL;DR- that horse has bolted.
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fradonjan Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #147

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Just out in the press this afternoon,that the indigenous players and their families,have stated ,they feel when they gave their initial statements ,they would not have to repeat them again?
I hope a rat has not just appeared.The smell is rising .
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fradonjan Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #148

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shane Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #149

shane
I meant it was sad that you are arguing about private schools so hard, days later, when the issue is actually about racism and abuse of power.
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shane Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #150

shane
He also revealed the footy boss at a West Australian club had told him: “All blacks are the same, they are all the same because they won’t put in the hard yards and will go walkabout”.

Hmmm...I wonder which club. Not much to go on
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blockerhall Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #151

blockerhall
Jeez Shane, you are missing my point too. Not arguing, highlighting that recent indigenous talent is being either being co-opted or placed into educational systems that 'more align' with draft outcomes to AFL clubs, whether we like it or not.

Apologies for mis-interpreting your ire, but not for being the source of it. I came back to this after a break is all. I get the issues here. If you think not, can't help that
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hypen Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #152

hypen
I was just revelling in the fact I made Shane feel miserable.
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blockerhall Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #153

blockerhall
I can't believe I effectively got an apology on the internet. Now on to hating the collective enemy, West Coast and racists. West Coast still famous as claiming Natanui as indigenous, because "he was indigenous to somewhere".

As a further offering, (I presume) the principal author of the Hawthorn report, Phil Egan, offered this last year as background to his experience in the then VFL. The 'flamboyant future VFL player' mentioned was Mark Jackson, for the record.
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shane Hawthorn Racism Review 1 year 6 months ago #154

shane
It's not that I don't think you get the issues here, it's that you have this insecurity where you take it personally when someone puts forward a broad criticism about a certain type of school. Then you put the actual issue to one side while you make a weird argument about how great the schools actually are. Not as weird as getting upset about disrespecting the queen but still pretty far out.

I bet you've read that bit and interpreted it as an attack on private schools.
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