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TOPIC: Frederick Dumped

DS Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #57

DS
That green socks analogy makes no sense. The players brought in the drinking (or non-drinking) rules because they, rightly or wrongly, believed it would help them win a premiership. Green socks won’t help that cause.
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pollyanna Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #58

pollyanna
Those spanky reworked 1995 green away anchor jumpers will - we played like heroes in them last year. They scare the beejeebers outta the opposition.
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Wandi Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #59

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I can guarantee there is not a scintilla of scientific evidence that having one or two beers 6 days out from a game has any deleterious effect on game day performance.
The contrary I would bet, by keeping players in touch with reality.
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shane Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #60

shane
The "rightly or wrongly" part can also apply to the socks. It's superstition.
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Jooter Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #61

Jooter
Personally, I find this relevant: Look at what happened to MFC: Steven May - drinking when he wasn’t supposed to - gets into it with his (non premiership) teammate Jake Melksham, opines that MFC wouldn’t have won the GF if Melksham played last year. Is there anyone of you who thinks that May would have made this comment if he was sober, and wasn’t on the drink?

Melksham takes offence and punches May, necessitating a operation on his hand. Now, Melksham and May are both unavailable for the next match (maybe more in Melksham’s case) and from the outside, MFC’s premiership defence is wobbling for the time being.

Aside from the sports science aspect of not drinking while rehabbing or during a 6-day break, they don’t call it the Demon drink for nothing.

Flame away.
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Rusted On Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #62

Rusted On
It's bloody hard to win the premiership. We should know as we haven't won one yet. Those that have won premierships say that you need to do every little thing that you can to get the best out of yourself (as well as a good slice of luck). If this includes not drinking during short turnarounds between games, then so be it. There's plenty of time for drinking after.
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shane Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #63

shane
They don't say that.
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purplepower Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #64

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Totally agree on the know drinking rule and I also suggest to ad a chastity belt , it will add more mongrel in the players
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itscraptacular Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #65

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It's been interesting reading through this thread and contrasting it with what JL said today which I believe went pretty much like this;

There have been other clubs that claim to have standards, yet they have walked past them, and we've seen how that works out.
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jas Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #66

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Overall, I would say its the right decision. Whether or not the 'standard' is reasonable (some say yes, some no, but it seems that such a team rule is fairly widespread), once its established as a standard, and players have accepted it (although presumably not all especially willingly), then to not impose the agreed sanction when that standard is breached sends a deeper message around the extent to which 'management' has bought into those standards, and makes them toothless and meaningless. And if they're prepared to let that slide and do nothing, does that lead to other standards slipping? Is it simpler to say no drinking on a 6 day break, rather than a fuzzier rule (e.g. don't write off) which then becomes open to interpretation? Having said that, it does seem to have an element of school rules about it, which some might suggest would suit footballers who have been cocooned through the system since their days at largely 'elite' schools, but others would argue shouldn't apply to functioning adults....
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FD1016 Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #67

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This sentence from JLo…

"I said to the players yesterday, it might hurt our chances of winning this weekend by not having 'Freddy' out there, but walking past these things will stop us winning in the future," Longmuir said.

Bloody well said.

www.afl.com.au/news/776220/-he-clearly-s...docker-ban-justified
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shane Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #68

shane
True. Remember when Fyfe broke covid protocols to go surfing and they didn't do anything, now look what's happened with him. Playing WAFL.
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Raglan Matt Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #69

Raglan Matt
Agreeing to uphold the rules, and agreeing that they are sensible & practical rules are 2 different things, so Fredericks cops the week. Next year?
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ManInPurple Frederick Dumped 1 year 10 months ago #70

ManInPurple
Sorry for the essay, again. And firstly, I am NOT having a go at Freddy – I am giving my opinion on the justification for the players setting this rule in place, and sticking to it.

It sounds like the rule was introduced by the players, or at the very least supported by them, maybe on advice from the club medicos. It sounds like other clubs have similar rules.

I would think that a group of young males (in Australia mind you) would not simply decide on a whim to not drink alcohol 6 days from a game.

I would think that multiple groups of young males around the country, all with a level of independence from each other’s decision making, would not make rules if they thought they were silly.

Why did they come up with that rule? Because they thought it would help them, in some small way, reach the ultimate success. Why did they think that? They're not idiots (well, I can name a few from a certain club up the road who are, but that’s beside the point) or a bunch of highly superstitious lads who think green socks or unwashed undies will help them win. One or two of them, maybe. The whole lot, from multiple clubs? Yea naaaaaaa.

I haven't read any scientific papers on this matter. Have you? I would think that the club medicos have. Possibly some members of the coaching staff and maybe some of the players too, the study results anyway.

I would think that there is *a* level of scientific evidence suggesting that alcohol negatively impacts performance.

Personally, if I have a heavy night out and they try to go to the gym the next morning, I am *way* under my normal level. If I have a medium night out, then the impact is less, but still clearly noticeable. Do I notice a drop if I have a single stubby with a burger the night before? Nope. But then, I'm not measuring my performance with wizbang KPIs and performance managers and all that jazz. I am in no way an elite sportsperson so a fraction of a percent hardly matters anyway, and it's only a sample size of 1 besides. You tell me how you go at the gym/run/etc the morning after downing a six-pack.

We know that alcohol will reduce performance for "a period" of time afterwards. Fact. How much, and how long is that period, now that's up for debate - and variable dependent on the individual and other circumstances.

You don’t want your players getting smashed, or even mildly drunk the night before a game - I think we'd all agree there. Is one glass ok? Possibly. What about 2? Or 3, 4 or 5? Dunno.

But you gotta draw the line somewhere right? I would think that zero drinks the night before game day is not an unreasonable expectation for an elite, professional, highly paid athlete.

Why should training be any different to game day?

How you train (over time) directly impacts your game-day performance (within your inherent limits anyway). Fact.

I don't know what the players do 6 days prior to a game. Probably some sort of training. Whatever their reasoning, I doubt they pulled the number "6" out of their ass.

Is one drink (assuming that’s what it was in this instance), by one player, once a year, one night before training going to make a material difference? I doubt it. What about 18 players once a year, one night before training? Probably not much, if any. What about one player every round? Hmm. What about every player every round? If one player breaks an agreement and there are no repercussions, what message does that send to the others? How long before others follow suit?

Set a rule. Set expectations. Get everyone on the same page, working to the same goal, all putting in their best effort. Each player knows that the bloke next to him is giving his all. They drive each other on. They bond though their joint effort and joint sacrifice. They perform better. Some may argue that it is less important to follow a rule set by the players, rather than the club. I would argue it is just as important, or more so.

Let's also get something else out in the air. No one is forcing anyone to want to be a professional AFL player. If you want to enjoy a stubby or 6 the day before a game, then there's a place for that: it's called the local footy club or state league (not sure on WAFL club policies). But if you want to be an AFL player getting paid, $100k, $300k or $800k, well sorry, but there are some sacrifices that need to be made. Like, oh, I don’t know, maybe don’t book a 5-week holiday with the missus to Europe in July? Dam, all those footy players miss out on Europe in summer for 10 years of their life. Or, dam, they need to follow a diet recommended by the club. What? You think you can tell me what to eat? You mean for 6 whole months I can’t smash a Big-Mac every second night of the week? Each year for my whole career? Ridiculous!

And again. The rule is does *not* prohibit them from having a cold-one for 6 months straight. Only on 6 day breaks, or the day before training or whatever the specifics of the rule are (to this point I haven't seen the *exact* wording). 22 games a year, plus, if you do really well, 4 games of finals. 26 games. Roughly half of them will have 7+ day breaks, plus 1 bye. So, even if you make the GF, there's still 14 weeks out of 27 weeks where you can enjoy a pint with some mates or glass of red with the missus on at least one day in the week.

Let's talk performance enhancing drugs. There are loads of them that athletes could take during training, days/weeks/months prior to their 'event', that are totally and completely out of their system on the 'big day'. Why do they take them? Because it lets them train that extra fraction harder, and that will directly correlate to better performance on the day. Again, I haven't read peer-reviewed papers on the topic - but given the stance of sporting bodies globally, I would suggest that the impact of performance enhancing drugs taken during training can be assumed as a solid fact. Sure, there might be some discrepancy on the level of impact of certain substances, but if there is a level of evidence that it may enhance performance, then it gets added to the list.
The opposite is also true - some substances hinder performance, and hindering performance on training will hinder it for 'event day'.

So, you tell me, as a supporter, do you want the players taking a (possible/likely) performance hindering substance prior to training?

Regardless what you or I or that other bloke in the corner think, it seems the players know where they stand - hence they set a rule.

Like I said, I don't know how conclusive the scientific evidence on the matter, but the players set the rule with the belief that they would perform even fractionally better.

If Freo win the premiership, you go ask any player whether the sacrifices (this and many other sacrafices) they made during the year were worth it. And, since it is a player set rule, I'm sure they could get rid of it if they wanted to.

Can't wait to see Freddy back after the bye. Love watching him play to bits. And I hope he has himself a jolly good time during the bye - within the player guidelines anyway.
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