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guy smiley Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #85

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Subsidies will help of course, when the high tide swallows your letter box in the beachside suburbs along the bottom of the Darling Scarp.
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werdnarewop Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #86

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Climate Change depredation is here now and already having significant global consequences. In Alaska the annual snow crab season has been postponed indefinitely due to “overfishing”. However if you deep dive into that story you find that in 2018 fish stock was reputedly 8billion, and in 2021 only 1billion. As the name implies snow crabs thrive in extremely cold waters below 2C. In Alaska fishing communities are being decimated and US authorities still couch the problems as an over fishing issue rather than a climate change issue. We’re doing the same with this greenwashing IMO
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guy smiley Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #87

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I find it amusing how some people get so defensive over the whole thing... a massive corporation must take great comfort from the furious offense taken on their behalf for suggesting they're not a good look as a sponsor.

Hunger strikes? LOL... the irony in that when food production around the world is under threat. We're only seeing the thin end of the wedge yet.
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Noddy Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #88

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I I find it amusing how some people find it amusing that some people have another view on the topic.
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dddocker Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #89

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We should stop driving our cars and trucks (Fyfe) and stop flying in planes as of this moment if we are genuine about our concern. Hope we are not just virtue signaling without real action.
China makes all the solar panels and windmills we want so contact Xi Jinping for sponsorship (Belt and Road sponsorship). Of course, China uses coal fired power and slave labor to make these things but who cares.
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pollyanna Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #90

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There's no way you're going to fix the world, at best you can slow things down before everyone fries or drowns. Everyone has to do their bit as best they can, even footy clubs - there's other sponsors around, like the crypto.....wait, no...
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Morgan Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #91

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There’s a bunch of research that people are more offended by hypocrisy than they are by people holding views they disagree with. I sort of get that, but life is complicated and there are almost always competing trade-offs. I’ve never bought into the view that you can’t advocate for a better future because you haven’t eschewed the present like some hermit living in the woods.

I think it’s an intergenerational disgrace that Governments haven’t done more to fight climate change. I also work for an energy company (not Woodside). We’re doing some good work in renewables, but the whole enterprise is underwritten by a legacy fossil fuels business. Most energy companies are somewhere along the transition. Whether I continue to feel comfortable working for my company over the next decade will be determined by how aggressively my company makes that transition.

The thing is though, I get to choose that. The Freo players don’t get to choose what they advertise on their chest to the world. It’s fair enough they only want to advertise what they believe in (or aren’t against). If the club insists on plastering Woodside on everything, I think the fans have a right to make their voice heard too.

I think they should be able to put that view despite the fact they probably still have a gas oven or water heater at home. There’s a difference between an energy legacy and future. New exploration like Woodside’s speaks to continuing the legacy, which is why people have a problem. How you feel on that depends on how long you reckon it will take to transition, and then you get thick into the weeds.

I think if a company like Woodside offered a sponsorship today, lots of sporting teams including Freo would say no. It’s a little more difficult to walk away from a decade-long sponsor, but I reckon (and hope) it will happen at the end of 2023.
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expat Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #92

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Is this why Lobb wanted out of Freo because they weren't going to change their number 1 sponsor?
I was at the Midnight Oil concert where they announced Woodside Ecocide.
But yet, they still flew out of here via plane to their next gig...
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Quasimodo Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #93

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hypen Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #94

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It doesn't have to be binary. If Woodside had a genuine energy transistion plan over the next decade you wouldn't be hearing about them. They've combined with another corporate entity to provide surety to keep doing what they are doing. It's wrong.

We are not hypocrits to say we want clean energy from those who have the resources to provide it just cause we own ceiling fans.
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werdnarewop Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #95

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The issue isn’t fixing the world Polly, it’s not doing anymore irreparable harm. Woodside could do so much more transitioning to greener energy but appears to want to stave off the inevitable as long as possible, expansionism even.
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itscraptacular Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #96

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I wish more people instead understood these companies get their finite 'resource' for next-to-nothing from we the 'owners', are agressively reducing the number of employees via automation and are even more agressively offshoring profits so as to pay as little as possible in tax.

We should be taxing them out of existence if we have to use fossil fuels during the transition - they've had plenty of warning. We should be storming their offices on the finances-alone.

On sport however, Formula 1 for example finally worked out that tobacco sponsorship had to go. Gambling revenue will have to go shortly as well. Somehow the sports survived/thrive.
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cletus Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #97

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So Guy - and...I absolutely respect admire & enjoy everything that Guy Smiley posts on these pages -

....climate change & its effect on food shortages may well be "an issue"..... but very soon, Guy, you've got 9 billion mouths to feed....

How are your wind turbines and solar panels gonna do that? ....given that - in the majority - your 'run of the mill consumer' doesn't really want to pay 1 cent more for their food...

What do you propose....starvation & famine??

Its an inescapable fact that diesel & oilis going to be required for a long time yet, in order to fuel the machinery required for the economies of scale required to produce cheap food & plenty of it it.

Or, we can listen to the illogic of a woke society, and go back to the ox & mouldboard. ...and yep, do away with Woodside, Big Oil, and the Middle East....

But you won't want the ox's involved either, because of methane......

THAT'S what's completely laughable in all this dribble....
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guy smiley Woodside Petroleum 1 year 6 months ago #98

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The Dutch lead the world in vertical farming technology for now, Cletus... which is ironic considering their long, cold winter.

Vertical farming? Intensive indoor hydroponic farming basically, using programmed LEDs to maximise the different growth stages... a single large greenhouse set up can produce more food using less water than acreage 20 times the area. Roughly speaking... I'd have to google to get the exact stats on it all.

Greece recently recorded, for the first time in history, 100% power supply from renewables. This, from an economy that just a few years back was the laughing stock of Europe. Wind and solar already supply a greater proportion of global energy than nuclear and they're really only getting started, nuclear is decades into it's stalled development and can't hope to keep up.

Pertinent for WA is the recent development of sand as a high temperature energy storage medium (battery) that lasts for months so the natural fluctuations in energy generation can be balanced out.

All of these things are happening and the pace of improvement is accelerating...

but emotional attachment to the familiar (and inefficient) way of doing things has many people getting defensive and aggressive towards the idea that change could mean something better.


Ask yourselves why Twiggy Forrest is so interested in developing hydrogen facilities around the joint. He knows it's a winner. Follow the money... not the taxpayer funded subsidies.
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