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TOPIC: The Draft

Freo66 The Draft 1 week 1 day ago #155

Freo66
Or a bottle of scotch
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Docker by the Sea The Draft 1 week 1 day ago #156

Docker by the Sea
Sorry pushed submit didn’t check auto correct and phone went flat.
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purple kit The Draft 1 week 1 day ago #157

purple kit
Right then, pick 6,8 & 19 plus some loose change to match a bid for Benning (if it comes)
Here’s my vote:
6(8): Rachele
8(10): Van Rooyen
19(21): trade down a couple to get back into next years draft and take whoever’s left of Motlop, Williams, Johnson.
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Bizkit said You Beaut

expat The Draft 1 week 1 day ago #158

expat
Williams or Johnson, forget Moplot.
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jusdoit, purplepower said You Beaut

fradonjan The Draft 1 week 1 day ago #159

fradonjan
We now have ,6, 8, 19, 61 and 69
and started the Draft with .8 and 27.
Job well done .
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Walter the baker The Draft 1 week 23 hours ago #160

Walter the baker
I thinks it’s a positive outcome but nothing to get carried away with. Picks in the 60s are equivalent to low cost raffle tickets and we did lose Cerra (and three years investment) to get some of the other picks.
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Raglan Matt The Draft 1 week 22 hours ago #161

Raglan Matt
We could get 27 and another second round pick back for 19.
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Montrachet The Draft 1 week 22 hours ago #162

Montrachet
if that plays out, getting pick 19 could be the top trade of 2021. but the draftees have to work out as also. couple of big ifs there...
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dddocker The Draft 1 week 22 hours ago #163

dddocker
Pick 19 is the first pick on day 2. It's an opportunity to get what some call a 'slider' from round 1. It's like gold and a reason why Bell refused to let it go. Fiddling with it is dangerous - in my view. No doubt some clubs will be chasing it, which makes my point.
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hypen The Draft 1 week 21 hours ago #164

hypen
So pick 19 is valued because you will get anyone good that hasn't been taken after pick 18. What's pick 20 then?

1st round is literally just a word, it has no draft value beyond that. If there is a benefit accruing from the 24 hour break that benefit is there for the picks following pick 19.
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goodie said You Beaut

hypen The Draft 1 week 21 hours ago #165

hypen
Honestly this whole trade week is just made up bull dust. Can't wait till cricket season..
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CaptSnooze said You Beaut

purple kit The Draft 1 week 21 hours ago #166

purple kit
It’s value is in the time clubs get to think about how good player “x” is that they had in their top 10-15 that for whatever reason is still available, if they rate that player highly enough, the scouts can get in the ear of their footy manager and convince them that trading two picks to move up a couple of spots is worth doing, if we can nab a future 2nd or 3rd rounder to move back a couple of places (and still get the one we rate) then it’s essentially a freebie. Or we just use it on someone we can’t believe has slid down the order. Choice is ours and we get to field multiple offers an hopefully create a bidding war if two clubs are after the same player.
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pollyanna The Draft 1 week 21 hours ago #167

pollyanna
Of course we can just tabulate up who the other clubs think would be fantastic and grab him ourselves.
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CaptSnooze, Raglan Matt, Down on down said You Beaut

my other name The Draft 1 week 20 hours ago #168

my other name
No wanting to harp on about pick 19 but it seems like some people are missing the point. I was listening to some of the guys in charge of drafting and they seem to say that for the first round at least (if it is a strong draft) , clubs do tend to pick the best available. Naturally there is a bit of weighting given to if they are an interstate player or a KP that they particularly need etc but by and large thats the modus operandi is pick the best available. . Which is why we picked Heath Chapman last year even though we have a complete army of back men. (Turns out it was an inspired pick he is an absolute jet)
After the first round though because often you can say that the next batch are pretty hard to rank, clubs tend to pick what they need.
So for example Brisbane, who didn't have a first round pick had assumed, like everyone else that Robertson would have been picked in the first round were so keen to get him because not only did they rate him highly but they felt they had a need for that type of player.
So yes pick 19 is the pick after pick 18 but it is also the first pick after a 24 hour break. And as Belly says the pick appreciates in value. So there is no point trading it early because someone might give you a future first rounder plus for it. The best case scenario for us would be a trading war for it and yes we take Geelongs pick 22 and next years 2nd rounder for it and still manage to pick who we want with pick 22. (and Geelong bomb next year)
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rogerrocks said You Beaut