TOPIC: Reasons & Excuses

The_Yeti Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #29

The_Yeti
Hey hypen, since you went to the footy on the weekend, which slimers breached their parole conditions this time?
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teasea Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #30

teasea
and most of those teams that have been at the top for long periods haven’t needed to throw in several youngsters at once, they usually give them a year or so at WAFL so their bodies are prepared for AFL. I appreciate its probably our own fault but it does make a difference. I expect this year to be a topsy turvy one but hope to see improvement.
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pollyanna Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #31

pollyanna
Hypen should be gagged after a Slime win.
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rogerrocks Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #32

rogerrocks
The benefit of being a good side is that you don't need to trade. You wait until something too good to ignore comes up, and then you take it. We've spent a lot of our life being desperate, and so punting on dodgy players. As far as I know Luke McPharlin is our only win from that (and what a win).

Good sides also seem to get the benefit of having solid older players who don't demand too much money. So they can use their salary cap to keep their young guns. A team of young guns will fall apart as the club won't be able to pay them what they are worth. See Gold Coast and GWS for examples.

I'm sure our current management know all this, and have vowed to manage our list accordingly. They don't seem incompetent to me.

Edit: Barlow was another dodgy pick that worked out.
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shane Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #33

shane
Thats rubbish. You always blame circumstances. Teams that do well make more good decisions than teams that don't. Big and little ones. We put all our eggs and money in the Ross Lyon basket and ignored too many other areas for too long. You can't fix that in one season.

Barlow was a rookie pick. That was a well made decision. Lyon wasted him because he wasn't one of his favourites.
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Raglan Matt Reasons & Excuses 1 week 4 days ago #34

Raglan Matt
Lyon wasted Barlow because Barlow's footy success went completely against the Lyon Footy Success Strategy, a shortish, slow moving but fast thinking footballing enigma who ran rings around the athletes of the footy world of Lyon.
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hypen Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #35

hypen
You know who else is an enigma, West Coast.

I was there.


But I'm losing my edge.
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Raglan Matt Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #36

Raglan Matt
Your spelling is still crap, Hypen you snuck an I & a G into that comment where they don't belong.
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shane Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #37

shane
'm losing my ede.

Collingwood supporter tweeting after they sack McGuire?
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Alvin Prpl Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #38

Alvin Prpl
You snuck an I and a G in but left out the E.

You know who else is an enema, West Coast.
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Morgan Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #39

Morgan
You guys have weird memories if you think Barlow was wasted.

Under Lyon between 2012 and 2015 (ie, when we were good) Barlow played 23 games a season and averaged 25 touches. He was moved to the periphery a bit in 2016 when Freo dropped off a cliff, and a younger, better player in Lachie Neale took his spot in the middle (Neale averaged 33 possessions in 2016 and won the Doig). Barlow still played 13 games, had 24 touches a game and finished 8th in the Doig that year. He then went to GC17 as a 30 year old, which meant he wouldn't have to be pushed to the ressies as Freo was rebuilding.

Barlow played 15 more AFL games.

If what was wasted was the opportunity to scrape out a couple more seasons of Michael Barlow past his prime while keeping a younger player out of the team while we finished in the bottom four, then yeah, I guess Lyon wasted him.

Edit: I broke my own rule of trying not to bite on this sort of thing.
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Blue1red1 Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #40

Blue1red1
Is there some sort of program we can get Hypen into to clean him up, all this West Coast associating behaviour is becoming disturbing.

Do we have to run him through "Grammarly" perhaps?
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The_Yeti Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #41

The_Yeti
My memory is still pretty good.

I remember Barlow being played on a half forward flank rather than being an inside mid. So Roly ignored Barlow's strengths and put him where his lack of speed was the biggest factor.

Then he started spending all his time at Peel because he wasn't quick enough to play in a position to which he wasn't suited.

Then he was delisted but went on to play as an effective player until he rebroke his leg.

Yes, I remember things quite well, particularly the part where Roly kept up his pretence of a rebuild by delisting players as fast as he could write their names on a board. I see that useless crab DeBoer can't get a game....oh wait...5 years after being delisted he's still best 22 at GWS. He should have had two premierships by now but fortunately, they're coached by another crab.

So yeah, I remember. I remember Roly constantly playing guys out of positions that suited them and then delisting them when his use of players flopped. We should have kept Barlow and delisted fat Roly.
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Drubbing Reasons & Excuses 1 week 3 days ago #42

Drubbing
Jlo has had one covid year and boom bust start to this one.

Lyon is history and so is most of his soap juggling fistball.

Unfortunately, Jlo has a forward-depleted team with an injury list, despite Lyon and Webber being gone.

This is the main thing I see that remains a serious problem, and no one seems bothered about fixing it. Freo seems to have a higher % of required players MIA for long stretches, which buggers up any team balance, cohesion and consistency.
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