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TOPIC: Rioli suspension

Walter the baker Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #71

Walter the baker
Thanks for that clarification RM. I’m comfortable with a harsh penalty for tampering with the test (as opposed to smoking some pot). Two years should be an absolute minimum although I note that the recent case of the Chinese swimmer Sun Yang originally resulted in a much longer ban of eight years (currently being reviewed)
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shane Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #72

shane
Sun Yang's ban has actually been rescinded and the case will be reheard. They are different circumstances but the same set of rules should apply.

If people don't like the rules, they should write new ones, not misapply the existing ones to suit themselves on a case by case basis.
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hypen Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #73

hypen
Given the Gatorade swap does anyone know if Willie ended up drinking his own urine?
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shane Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #74

shane
You're making an assumption about what he put in the bottle. Could have been a premeditated act using synthetic urine, and he botched it and got caught. So the second time around he tried again but they put a bit of cannabis in there to make the story sound plausible.

The club he plays for had a lot to lose if he was caught with something less palatable to the public, and they have a strong record of getting around the rules in this regard. They don't fail drug tests at West Coast.
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Noddy Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #75

Noddy
The WC are claiming they still don’t know why Rioli did what he did. Seriously, no person at the club has asked him, why did you do that?
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Corporal Agarn Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #76

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They probably just looked him in the eye. That's their usual go to.
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Blue1red1 Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #77

Blue1red1
Hypen - This is the AFL, Not NRL - no bubbling allowed.

On consideration of the verdict, I've just realised that this matter must have been sent to the match review committee.

That would explain a lot!
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hypen Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #78

hypen
Gather around gather around for a tale you'll be sure not to miss,
The Ode to Fat Cat Willie,
The Eagle who drunk his own !@$$.
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Raglan Matt Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #79

Raglan Matt
Shane, If they know they are going to fail drug tests at the eagles, they don't take drug tests. Somehow Willie was on the wrong page.
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shane Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #80

shane
They were passing drug tests. No one has ever said how.
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Corporal Agarn Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #81

Corporal Agarn
Thank you Mark Duffield for treating the pathetically embarrassing public response from the Slime CEO and coach with the contempt it deserved.
Just when you think they couldn't lower the bar any further Meth Coast prove you wrong again.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #82

The_Yeti
I missed Duffield's comments, CA.

What did he have to say?
Egurls Suck!
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Corporal Agarn Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #83

Corporal Agarn
I'm hoping someone could put it up here. Basically he called them out for saying that players need to be educated more in this regard. Duffield said he was 24 at the time of the offences and was not being expected to conduct some great scientific theory, just piss in a cup. Plus he had been in the SANFL and AFL long enough to know what went on.
So in a measured way.... I don't believe your b/s spin.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 3 years 1 month ago #84

The_Yeti
That's precisely the way the anti-doping code is supposed to work.

The players get educated on their responsibilities regularly throughout the year and indeed, during the off season. The crux of the matter is that each player is individually 100% responsible for compliance with the code.

The difference between a footballer like Rioli and a teenage athlete is that Rioli was surrounded by support - doctors, fitness staff, football administrators, coaching staff, other players and his manager. A teenage swimmer for example might have a coach (part time) and parents and yet the same responsibilities apply.

Shayna Jack failed a test for a banned substance believed to have come from a sports supplement and was given two years. SIA and ASADA immediately appealed as under the strict liability of the code a failed test is four years. Rioli interfered with his sample on two different occasions and that is considered the same as a failed test under the code. It should have attracted the full four years but the AFL has a strong track record of trying to dodge around it's obligations under the code.

Of course, if failed tests attracted sponsorship dollars, Rioli would have been handed life at least.

Those who claim that two years is fair completely miss the point of the code. It is intended to be harsh to make the prospect of cheating untenable. It's not a matter of hanging judges, it's a matter of known consequences to an athlete's personal choice.

If the system is good enough to be applied to 15 year old kids competing at state level sports, it's certainly good enough to be applied to an experienced professional professional sportsman who is surrounded by bucketloads of support personnel.

It really is that simple even when some try to muddy the waters.
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