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TOPIC: Rioli suspension

Freo66 Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #43

Freo66
I hadn't realized he did the tampering twice.

[i]The Tribunal found that the following three breaches of the Australian Football Anti-Doping Code were proved (largely on admissions made by Mr Rioli):

Use of a prohibited method by Mr Rioli, namely urine substitution during the course of the doping control/sample collection process on 20 August 2019;
Presence of the metabolite of a Prohibited Substance (namely cannabis) in a sample collected from Mr Rioli on 5 September 2019;
Use of a prohibited method by Mr Rioli, namely urine substitution during the doping control/sample collection process on 5 September 2019.
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Drubbing Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #44

Drubbing
But he's really sorry, he realised now he did the wrong thing. Twice. Now he wants to move on.

Nisbett is on it, they're upping their education program. Apparently, you have to explicitly tell WCE players not to substitute urine for Powerade.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #45

The_Yeti
Yeah, Drubbing, it's the way the code has been framed on a worldwide basis.

The individual sporting bodies are required to conduct the anti-doping regime in-house with a final appeal to CAS, which is outside the control of the sporting body.

It's not the system at fault here but another abject failure of integrity by the AFL...again.

There might be a case for government intervention putting their 'sport' status at risk if they keep avoiding their responsibilities.
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Raglan Matt Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #46

Raglan Matt
He tried to cheat the system twice, he should be banned for life. No ifs, no buts, banned. for. life.
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Freo66 Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #47

Freo66
Over at the west they're already spruiking the comeback match, Tigers V coasters as Claremont oval.

And you would think if he tampered with his sample on the 20th of August, he most likely had something in his system that day.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #48

The_Yeti
Yeah RM, the system doesn't work that way.

For a hearing under the world anti- doping regime, all offences dealt with at a hearing are treated as one offence.

I think you could make a case for treating the others as aggravating circumstances with a higher penalty, which beggars belief in the AFL only applying half a sanction.
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Noddy Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #49

Noddy
The WC CEO would give ‘Survivor’ a good run. Probably win champion of champions not having been a contestant.
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Morgan Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #50

Morgan
There is a bucket load of evidence to suggest that fear of apprehension will deter people from breaking rules, but very little evidence that increasing sentence length has any effect. The idea that another AFL player would be deterred from taking a performance enhancing drug or encouraged to swap a sample by a four year suspension for Rioli and not a two year suspension is fanciful. Four year suspensions are very rare, even in athletics where running and jumping are the only part of the sport. We know what was in Rioli's sample, at least the second time, because he was caught with cannabis in his system. Surely they also checked for other things.

The kid stuffed up and lost two years of the prime of his career. It’s a just result. But a life suspension? I don’t understand the pitchfork mentality.

Just out of curiosity, how is it physically possible in the same test to substitute the sample and at the same time provide a sample with a metabolite of cannabis? Had he been using the Gatorade bottle as a bong?
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Drubbing Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #51

Drubbing
Spare me the poor kid crap. He's 25 years old. He's a cheat. He knew he was doing something wrong, and did it twice which indicates form, and a clear understanding he was cheating.

If you want to deter people, you kick them out of the game.

The AFL don't want to do any such thing. They just prefer people not get caught, so they don't have to fudge their way around letting someone off lightly.
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shane Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #52

shane
It's a rule in a game of kicking a ball around. It's not the criminal justice system.

Stop being a dickhead all the time, Morgan.
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Freo66 Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #53

Freo66
I'd say he's peed in the jar, realized he had a bong the weekend prior and panicked and chucked some Gatorade in to mask it.

Rinse and repeat 2 weeks later but the cannabis didn't show the second time around.
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Blue1red1 Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #54

Blue1red1
Morgan I'm not an expert, however to answer your question, is there not an A sample and B sample?

I know nothing about what he has or hasn't done other than what is being printed in dodgy press.

At a guess, it is possible he may have wee -D in one and gatoraded the second. (I really should show myself out now before Shane Fires me!)

( On an odd but more serious note coming from me, if he did fill one pot correctly, and filled the other with gatorade, then possibly giving him the benifit of the doubt, maybe he genuinely and naively was not trying to hide anything,and just made a poor choice, thinking it worked well a couple of weeks ago with cup B? - BTW I am not defending him here for his choices but there is always more going on than what we are privy too.)
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hypen Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #55

hypen
Really, folks! We aren't okay with a pothead playing again?
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darthmarto Rioli suspension 3 years 3 weeks ago #56

darthmarto
Not sure the suspension will be anything other than symbolic / academic ...

Not that I've been paying attention, but Willie seems to have dropped off the radar for the better part of the last 18 months, I suspect match fitness may be a bridge too far. Could be wrong ... and not sure I'm particularly concerned.

Other than the unsettling, familiar sensation of watching the local media nail their colours to the mast pushing opinion instead of facts.
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