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TOPIC: Rioli suspension

darthmarto Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #127

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Not at all.

Freo suspended MJ fairly harshly and I'll assume there was behind the scenes efforts toward education etc.

World of difference to "applauding what he'd overcome" ...

And that's always been the stark contrast between the philosophies of the two. Gaff punches someone - "Nah they're mates, played golf the other day". Integrity bloke shoves around a cameraman - something about he was trespassing or something that turned out to be rubbish.

Always with the spin.

And "in the US" stopped being a benchmark or example long ago.
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Corporal Agarn Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #128

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He's 25 for chrissakes, not some young innocent kid making a silly mistake. He's got form for this and his stupid sample shenanigans. What fool would walk through customs like that? Oh, and of course now he's devastated.

Obviously not very bright. In case you, like me, wasn't sure how much 25 grams looked like maybe this will be allowed? And he had this in his pants!

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pollyanna Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #129

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I'm not going to weigh into any moral argument - but in all honesty, whenever I go to grab a bottle of Gatorade that lemon/lime one has too many connotations now, I can only think of one thing (and reach for any other colour instead). Fact.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #130

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Funny thing is rr, cannabis is performance enhancing, which is why it is a banned substance on gameday.

There are long winded explanations as to why this is the case but it is known to increase vasodilation and bronchodilation. WADA also lists known performance enhancing issues as improved vision and muscle relaxation. It is also listed because it reduces anxiety and improves performance under pressure. It also aids in improved sleep and recovery.

All this is quite apart from the known long term health effects of cannabis on lung damage, mental health problems and higher rates of cancer.

WADA hasn't listed cannabis because they don't like people smoking joints but because the expert medical advice clearly precludes it.
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pollyanna Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #131

pollyanna
Yeah - if the Gatorade went into the urine sample jar, where did the urine go? There's only two bottles there - take a guess.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #132

The_Yeti
Actually polly, I think what gave it away so quickly was Willie using blue Gatorade.

Also he claimed he was dehydrated and couldn't produce a sample but I'm not sure on how many occasions he was that dehydrated.
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pollyanna Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #133

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Hey, grab the lemon/lime and take a chance then, good luck to ya.
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The_Yeti Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #134

The_Yeti
Well, I would try the lemon \ lime but I've kind of gone off Gatorade for some reason...
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Raglan Matt Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #135

Raglan Matt
Shane, I said "most players are following the rules, get rid of the ones that can't". Image is important for the young fellas coming up in the game, that is why whacking blokes in the head on field was cracked down on, after TV coverage became more extensive and available, not because of the potential for health problems. The AFL used the line "We can't have junior footy players emulating AFL players on field brawling" ( paraphrased)

As for role models, would Rioli be in this trouble if he was at a club who took a different view on what is acceptable? Using Johnno's indiscretion with coke as a "don't point fingers example" highlights the difference between 2 clubs, not the similarities.
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shane Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #136

shane
I don't think Rioli shouldn have to pay for Ben Cousin's or Daniel Kerr's sins. Treat him fairly for what he's done wrong, not for what others got away with doing.
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Raglan Matt Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #137

Raglan Matt
I don't either, I was making the point that the example the club set then indicates to young players that they will be protected by the club no matter what they do. Rioli, at another club, would probably have been shown a better way much earlier in his path to what has happened to him.
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rogerrocks Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #138

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Yeti, I don't buy the idea that THC is performance enhancing. You only have to watch The Club to know that. Indeed, I can see stoned players out there saying to their teammates, "You know, I've never really appreciated just how beautiful the sound of the umpire's whistle really is. There is something weirdly interesting about it... remind me, what was I talking about... Hey, do you reckon there will be pizza at half time?"

And as for damage to long-term health, I reckon alcohol is worse.
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shane Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #139

shane
Very scientific.

One of the points of the WADA rules is to avoid athletes doing something to improve their performance that might have long term health effects. There are benefits to using cannabis for professional athletes, that's understood (even if not by you), and there are long term health concerns. They have considered removing it from the register but haven't. Presumably more research will come from the legalisation in the US, so they'll keep looking at it.

Alcohol has long term health concerns but not the benefits to performance, so it's not listed.
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Drubbing Rioli suspension 2 years 11 months ago #140

Drubbing
I think it's a joke that WC medicalise this into a drug addiction problem.

That's far too convenient an excuse, which allows them to distance themselves and extract sympathy for Rioli.

He's not an addict or a medical case. He's simply too stupid for his own good. But plain stupidity comes with penalties. Medical conditions gets you all sorts of potential exit strategies. It's BS.
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