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TOPIC: Hogan going to GWS

Docker by the Sea Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #85

Docker by the Sea
Gold Coast, Freo and then Melbourne failed with Bennell.
No one has come for McCarthy.
We had to throw out the possibility of paying a good chunk of Hogans salary to get any interest. It now looks like we are going to accept rock bottom just to get somebody to take the risk.
I supported all of these trades. I was wrong and the club massively over-estimated it’s ability to turn these players around. What makes this worse is, the club made the same mistake three times, with much more information than the public is privy too.
If we need to take some losses in the short term to correct the ship, I believe it’s the right way to go.
With 20-20 hindsight. How good would our list of kids look with these trades back on the books.
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bozza Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #86

bozza
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If GWS accepted our offer the year prior for CamMac we would of given up 2 early first round picks.
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Freo66 Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #87

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For what it's worth, in the scheme of things going forward for the club its the right call. Yes we're not going to get much in return but its time we made a stand and not just bring home WA players for the sake of they used to live here. We need to be a destination club (like the mob up the road unfortunately) but its not going to happen until we win a flag.

And I think the AFL need to take some responsibility here as well to sign off on deals that appear too good to believe. They have a responsibility for the players welfare going forward as well. I believe that the Demons played a big part in this and we did not know the full extent of Hogan's off field issues.

A bit late now but I also think there has to be some form of Cola for expansion clubs outside of Victoria up until they win a flag.

A Jeremy Cameron is simply never going to walk to a club outside of Victoria unless as above the club is successful off and on the field.

Interesting article below on how on that occasion the AFL stopped a trade going through saying its not in the spirit of the rule. Not exactly the same, but I think you know where I'm going with this. The same could be applied for Bennell and other failed trades.

www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2020...c77bd34e61f2747fdd6d
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Morgan Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #88

Morgan
McCarthy kicked 1.6 goals a game in 2019; that’s more than Tabs ever averaged in his career until this year (when he kicked 1.8). McCarthy is two years younger.

JLo tried to turn him into a wingman, Cam lost a ton of weight, had a seizure, then JLo didn’t play him in a team that couldn’t kick goals.

I don’t know much about Cam off-field, but it’s fair to say we didn’t do him many favours on the field this year.
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Docker by the Sea Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #89

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With that in mind he should be able to find a new home as a free agent
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Down on down Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #90

Down on down
Wow deal done. Pick 54 and that's it. There is no way to spin it, we have been done over getting Hogan in and getting him out.
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dddocker Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #91

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Very disappointing but not surprising. I think it shows that there were some major irreconcilable issues between Hogan and possibly coaches and other players. Let's hope 54 will get us another Lachie Neale who was I think an in the 50s pick way back when. At least it will give us some points towards getting an academy player who could be such a player.
Always look on the bright side of life.
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Bizkit Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #92

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On an important political day, I don't really want to quote Donald Trump.

However "this has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever".

Pick 54 for a bloke who will walk into a premiership contenders side and be their number 1 forward is a complete joke.
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Corporal Agarn Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #93

Corporal Agarn
"No one has come for McCarthy."

They don't have to because we delisted him without giving him any games to see if he was of any value. They just wait until draft day and get him for nothing. Same as we did with De Boer, Collins, Barlow and Menegola.

Slow learners.
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shane Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #94

shane
Fun fact. In 2001 we traded Daniel Schell to Adelaide for pick 56.
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Morgan Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #95

Morgan
I was wondering what flavour the bag of chips would be that we got from GWS.

It was worse than I thought; they were Chicken Twisties.
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Gumnut Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #96

Gumnut
I'm really not quite sure how to interpret this as I wasnt expecting much but at least a couple of picks to help counter claims for our NGA players. Only 1 draft pick is very disappointing ánd I'm hoping there may have been some friendly chat surrounding pick swaps with GWS later in trade week that will be beneficial to us come draft time.
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391 Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #97

391
Wow. And eeeeek.

Sure hindsight is 2020.

BUT ... Hopefully someone is currently carving in to the boardroom table ...

Always. Go. To. The. Draft:

(Unless absolutely in a premiership window or local lad wanting to come home for a BARGIN Price.)

What we sometimes forget about 2018 is we had our pick at end of season (pick 6 after Lynch compo pushed us down one spot) plus whatever we could extract for Neale ... we could have had 2 picks in top 10 (Bris had pick 5 and they did swap with Port) or even 3 in first round if Bris had managed to do similar pick swap to ours with GWS.

In this draft ... FML ...

Sam Walsh
Jack Lukosius
Izak Rankine
Max King
Connor Rozee
Ben King
Bailey Smith
Tarryn Thomas
Chayce Jones
Nick Blakey
Jye Caldwell
Zak Butters
Isaac Quaynor
Jackson Hately
Jordan Clark
Ned McHenry
Sam Sturt
Xavier Duursma
Liam Stocker
Riley Collier-Dawkins
Ely Smith
Xavier O'Halloran

**agree Sturt can play. Also agree Valente could yet come good but geez couple of those plus last year's crop would be pretty epic list

EDIT - I was for trading in Lobb, Hogan and Cam ... particularly Cam but feel when you consider this set plus Bennell, Matera and Wilson (who I still rate) think draft is the answer.
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purplepower Hogan going to GWS 3 years 6 months ago #98

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Pick 54 for Hogan ? That is stupidity
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