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TOPIC: Hogan and Blakely up for grabs

Eventually Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #99

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If these reliable sources are to be believed I can only assume that our new coach does not believe that Hogan has a place in the team that he is trying to develop and mould. If that is the case then we have to respect that and presume Justin has a bigger plan - perhaps he believes it's time for Fyfe to do a Pavlich and I'm cool with that as it worked brilliantly for the last 5 years of Pav's career. A forward line of Fyfe, Taberner, Walters, Sturt, Henry, Schultz/Switta,Lobb looks good to me. Picking up a useful draft pick or 2 for Hogan would be ideal to snare a few more talented midfielders or a Clark from Geelong.
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Morgan Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #100

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I’ve been trying not to get worked up about the media stuff about Hogan and have been waiting for the dust to settle a bit; but it’s hard going. If Freo and Hogan want to see what their options are there’s nothing wrong with that, but even the thought of paying another team for Jesse to kick goals for them has me riled up a bit.

Who exactly is doing the trade cobbling down at Freo? If it’s Bell, and he’s going to staggeringly pay to get out of a contract he executed two years ago, it’s a really big black mark against him.

If it’s JLo and he doesn’t want the hassle of dealing with Hogan (or thinks he’s a net-negative) then that’s his prerogative – all coaches are ultimately held to their win / loss record - but players like Hogan don’t come along all that often.

I’d like to give the club the benefit of the doubt, but in my mind the club lost that by the manner of CamMac’s departure. I already thought leaving Hogan out of the team this season was strange, paying to get rid of him seems like madness. Only North and Adelaide scored fewer points than Freo last year, and Hogan is someone who can help us kick goals.

There’s no denying Jesse’s creates more problems for Freo than most players, and he really hasn’t done himself or the club any favours since he’s been here. Who knows, maybe this is a correction the club needs to make (ie, no-one is bigger than the team etc); but I just don’t understand how anyone thinks making him someone else’s problem helps the club or helps Jesse?

Hopefully when they have the chat in a week or so they figure something out.

It’s hard work being a Freo supporter.
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Burton Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #101

Burton
Agree completely, if the talk is true. The staff members change, the moronic decisions remain...
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Hubble Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #102

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Just looked at the 2018 draft, for what we gave Melbourne we could have had Max King and Ian Hill.
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Bizkit Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #103

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There's no rational reason for getting rid of someone with the talent of Jesse. Look at Dusty and what he's achieved despite having far worse off field connections.

Get behind Jesse, build him up and get him kicking goals for Freo. The rest of this talk is madness.
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expat Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #104

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Yeah, we need to support Hogan... send him down south to help Fyfe run cattle/sheep over the closed border. I'm sure that will help him fit in.
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Corporal Agarn Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #105

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I would much prefer Hogan to stay but if he does go it is essential that we get another key forward. As mentioned our points for last year was terrible. Lobb couldn't hit the side of a barn which left Tabs one out and considering that he did a bloody good job.
Plus I would have thought this year showed that Fyfe is not a key forward. Why do people think he should be played permanently as a forward when he clearly plays his best football in the midfield?
Plus now some think Pearce would be a good forward even after playing a few games there when he showed he wasn't.
Our only other option atm is Cox who of course just played his best season in the backline.
And who knows if and when Hamling and Pearce will be back.
Ben Brown is not the answer either.
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fradonjan Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #106

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from the west this morning


Fremantle have reportedly offered to pay part of Jesse Hogan’s salary for next year as they look to move on the troubled forward this trade period.

SEN are reporting that the Dockers have made it clear to rival clubs that they’re happy to pay part of the about $650,000 Hogan is set to earn in the final year of a three-year deal he signed in 2018.

Hogan has kicked 18 goals in 19 games in two seasons at Fremantle, after a promising start to his career at Melbourne, when he booted 152 goals in his first 71 matches.
The 25-year-old has not been able to get on field consistently since being traded to the Dockers, with a mix of off-field issues and injuries seeing him sidelined.

Earlier this month Hogan was fined $8000 for a quarantine breach upon returning from the Dockers’ second hub stint in Queensland.

Not long after speculation emerged Fremantle was open to trading Hogan as they look to continue their rebuild.

There are reports both Sydney and Greater Western Sydney are interested in the forward, while Channel 7’s Mark Steven’s is reporting dual-reigning premiers Richmond have also expressed some interest in the spearhead.


Earlier this month, president Dale Alcock wouldn’t comment either way on Hogan’s future.

“Jesse’s currently on leave and we’re going to take some time to work carefully through that and work and liaise with Jesse, his management and the club,” Alcock said on ABC radio.

“That’s our position on that.

“We’re not going to react to it (his contract) immediately. He’s done his hotel quarantine, he’s out of that, he’s on leave.

“The football department have picked that up and our senior people will pick that up with him and his management in due course.”
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fradonjan Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #107

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And this from Mathew Richardson
Jesse Hogan’s chances of staying at Fremantle are set to become clearer this week, as AFL commentator Matthew Richardson warned the Dockersrisked handing a rival club a “real weapon”.

The West Australian understands the Dockers will meet Hogan’s management this week ahead of the trade period kick-off a week tomorrow.

The 25-year-old has one season remaining on his contract but has attracted some interest from Sydney after an unsuccessful two years at Fremantle.

He has yet to be presented with a concrete offer from another club, and the Dockers are adamant they have not shopped him around.

Speaking to The Hard Ball Gets AFL Show podcast, Richmond legend Richardson said he felt like all signs pointed to Hogan being moved on during the trade period.

“I think he’ll be somewhere else. I just feel it hasn’t quite worked and it sounds like they’re happy to shop him around and there will be some takers there,” he said.

“I know there’s been some issues for Jesse and some injuries but he’s still young, a key forward and shown he can kick 50 goals. If he can get the right environment for him and get up and running he can still be a real weapon so I think there’ll be plenty of interest.”

Hogan found some form in the final rounds of the season, kicking four goals against North Melbourne in round 17, but ran into legal trouble on his return to Perth after a quarantine breach.

Sydney are understood to have reached out to Hogan and are desperate for more tall options inside 50, with doubt over Lance Franklin’s ability to throw off persistent hamstring injuries. Swans key forward Tom McCartin now looks more suited to key defence, while intercept marker Aliir Aliir has been offered a four-year deal at Port Adelaide.

As reported by The West Australian, Geelong first-round pick Jordan Clark looks unlikely to be tempted home to WA, with a two-year contract making a move difficult. The Dockers hold selection 10 in the national draft and have an interest in securing Clark, but it would need to be an exceptional deal for the Cats to consider letting him go.

Clark was frustrated with the lack of opportunities in the back line this year as the Cats marched all the way to a grand final, but with Geelong’s key backs looking top-heavy in the decider and lacking dare with their kicking, he shapes as a natural solution if he can find a spot in the tea
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exceed Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #108

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Thankfully we are getting genuine non bs discussion on this board.
If hogan goes someone needs to be held accountable at freo.This is a titanic mistake and a head must roll. The draft picks we gave up are beyond a mistake
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Tragic Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #109

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The west
The West are giving this out for free.
It is attributed to "staff reporters". I am guessing that is code for repeating a story we read somewhere else.
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Raglan Matt Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #110

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It's obvious that Longmuir doesn't think Hogan is worth the trouble he brings. None of the decision makers who were there in Lyon's time can really be blamed if Lyon wanted Hogan. I don't think Hogan will become a "weapon that haunts us", and I don't think we should be throwing in salary payments to sweeten any deal. If another club wants him, they should be paying him.
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Drubbing Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #111

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Call me confused. Hogan came back to WA to be with family during a tough time. So why would he be shopped around interstate and be open to that?

If coming back hasn't helped with his problems, then going to Sydney ain't going to either.
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goodie Hogan and Blakely up for grabs 3 years 5 months ago #112

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I suppose all you can do is take the club at it's word that they have 'not actively shopped him around'. The rest is just media speculation and click-bait hype. Hopefully, anyway.

The club is building a decent list. In a few years we should be contending again. Keep Hogan. Keep Blakely. Keep building depth through smart drafting and sensible trading.
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