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TOPIC: LeCra(p) Ass Coach

shane LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #29

shane
I'll have to take you word on that.

What I would say is, claiming that it's best practice, with a couple of examples of something working out well, is not understanding the problems that come with nepotism and corruption of process.

I mean, one of the first things Longmuir did was offer a mate with no experience a job. I know it was 20 odd years ago but surely Peter Bell learnt about this stuff at university.
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pollyanna LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #30

pollyanna
What a killer, everyone called him Chris! Those Scott twins really take the p*ss, hey.
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Raglan Matt LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #31

Raglan Matt
You have got a point there, Shane, Lyon offered 4 or 5 mates without valid qualifications, jobs, and that did not work out well.
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Drubbing LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #32

Drubbing
Has the cricket not kicked in yet shane?

There's no real solution. Nepotism wins because ex footy players can't get an ass coach job, unless they're given an ass coach job. There doesn't seem to be an apprenticeship available through TAFE.

So it's one of those on-the-job-training gigs. Like Football Operations Manager.
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jezzaargh LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #33

jezzaargh
I think it is easy to take a lot of these things out of context, and try to inappropriately apply a one rule fits all approach to every role being recruited.

Merit-based, competitive and thorough recruitment processes are indeed the ideal process and starting point. Clearly important for CEO and the Senior Coach

But very often, key hires want to have their team around them. A star researcher might bring his lab assistants, an Exec might bring his own EA.

Ass Coach gigs are often short term, not secure arrangements. It's fair enough for J Lo to want some people working for him that he knows, trusts and communicates well with and that he thinks have the qualities required. As long as they are expected to perform and demonstrate that they can do the job and they're not signed up for life to then phone it in and take home a cheque I think this is not an unexpected part of bringing in a new coach and not necessarily unethical
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shane LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #34

shane
This isn't just Fremantle, this is the industry and it needs cleaning up but at Fremantle, Peter Bell got a job from his mates after previously being put on the board by his mates, and then Longmuir was hired by Bell and a couple of their other mates, and now Longmuir offered a job to his mate.

How hard does someone like a Michelle Cowan have to work to break through that wall of mates?

And why should they have to?
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pollyanna LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #35

pollyanna
I'm only assuming here, but maybe this is why Freo got rid of their HR people.
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Raglan Matt LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #36

Raglan Matt
In about 6 or 7 years, Mikey Walters will change all that, he will take the coaches job at Freo and bring in fellas who can coach, mates or not.
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Walter the baker LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #37

Walter the baker
I’m with Shane on this big time. No ones first attempt at a new role should be at the elite level. What company worth a pinch of salt puts someone into the exec level without prior experience. I don’t want to see IF someone can be a skills coach. I want us to hire a proven skills coach. I don’t give a rats if he is a mate of JLo.
As an aside, why is this even in the news. Who approached the media to let them know that La Cras MIGHT chose to work with us? And he won’t decide until next month?? WTF: we need a skills coach NOW!
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shane LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #38

shane
He probably needs the month to get accredited.
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KingKepler LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #39

KingKepler
How about if Matthew Pavlich expressed his interest in filling an assistant coaching role?

Are we saying if this happened he should be knocked back and tell him he needs to coach in the lower leagues for a number of years before even being considered?
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pollyanna LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #40

pollyanna
They're going to take a month to organise a new fishing reporter.
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shane LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #41

shane
He should have to provide a coaching resume when applying for a coaching job.
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The_Yeti LeCra(p) Ass Coach 4 years 5 months ago #42

The_Yeti
Shouldn't take a month, polly.

What's so hard to learn about kissing a fish and muttering incoherently? Rex Hunt made a career doing that.
Egurls Suck!
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