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TOPIC: You're A Bald Headed Flog

hypen You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #85

hypen
It's just your basic code of conduct: personal abuse, vilification, discrimination. It shouldn't be too hard. I'd have thought calling someone a flog wouldn't see them kicked out of a game of football.

But I don't think it a massive change to make.

I was challenging Shane's point about losing barrackers- this is not about that.
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jezzaargh You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #86

jezzaargh
well it is if you don’t get the line right.

I reckon crowd behaviour has been getting uglier and uglier in recent years. As the game gets more and more commercialised and marketised, the football consumer seems to think it can do as it pleases
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Blue1red1 You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #87

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In my opinion, It's all a state of mind.

FWIW I umpire games. I can only blow what I see. I get sprays from people when they see things another way, both from players and fans. What I get though is people are passionate and vent their spleens. That is just par for course. I don't take it personally, as generally it is all hot wind and blow, and is more about the decision / frustration. Some times it is very witty and funny and sometimes it is just blue. Usually when someone goes blue other spectators will intervene and remind people about the kids being present, so it is pretty self regulated as a whole.

I guess I can see peoples arguments here, but really anything can be offensive if you want it to be.

In reality, the crowd noises , responses are what makes being at the ground so much fun. I know what I am going to get when I go to a footy match to watch. I know what I am going to get when I umpire. That is why I go. If you don't want to hear people carrying on watch it on TV. or don't take the job on and don't give them your money.
But as an umpire, if I have a clown / flog yelling out at me I rarely even register it. I'm having fun running around enjoying the spectacle of the game and I often have the best seat to view some crazy athleticism.

To Shane's point, if you are going to make a stand on something, set the expectation and articulate the penalties for not staying on the program before executing the new rules. What has happened is all ar5eabout.

If this is the new direction of Football, then the AFL should start by giving umpires cards and allowing them to send off players who abuse an umpire and make the new culture abundantly clear - Abuse the umpire and off you will go and your team plays a player short for "X" amount of time. Then you can articulate to fans of the new AFL - Abuse of an umpire is not acceptable and you will be ejected from the venue. There should be signs put up advising / reminding people of the venues code of conduct and expectations.

Regarding other sports like Cricket, generally the umpires don't impose themselves on the game. More importantly, unlike the current AFL the rules are not vague / fluid / changing from week to week, and are pretty much black and white and understood by most of the punters. So when an umpire gives a decision, usually it is 99% clear why the decision was given and is usually pretty consistent through out a game. Yea they can get it wrong, but as a punter you can understand the rational.
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Raglan Matt You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #88

Raglan Matt
If Nicholls is so upset about someone calling him a bald headed flog as he goes off the ground, can the Umpires Appointment Board be confident he is up to the pressure of umpiring AFL games? Players who crack under pressure are called out by opponents(and teammates, quite often), the media and supporters, often the cracking comes from mistakes made, and it is "all part of the game". An umpire cracks under pressure, and no-one is allowed to call him out on it. No wonder the standard of umpiring has dropped this century. And these days, they don't have to dodge pool balls and the like as they come off the ground.
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Date You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #89

Date
Jeepers - bye weeks suck. Seriously suck. First the great Ovaltine v Milo debate now this

On a similar note, my vacuum cleaner wasn’t working properly this morning so I patched the thing with a spare “I love Matthew Nicholls” sticker I just happened to have on hand.

Now it sucks better than ever ....
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Blue1red1 You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #90

Blue1red1
Just be warned Date, if you were reckless and had stuck and Eagles sticker on there - Well Science would better understand the origin of Blackholes
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The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #91

The_Yeti
3AW reporter has apparently questioned the people who observed the events of last night and confirmed that what he actually said was "you can't handball one-handed, you bald headed flog".

www.3aw.com.au/fan-ejected-from-marvel-s...s-into-3aw-football/

It was also reported elsewhere that the source of the "p***" comment was a reddit user, not somebody who was asked at the ground. That is beginning to look like somebody tried talking it up to justify having the fan turfed out.

Stupid, hysterical overreaction. You would hope that Nicholls, the bald-headed flog, gets a please explain but then again, this is the AFL where nothing is as it seems
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shane You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #92

shane
Reddit not a credible source of information?

I just don't know what to believe any more.
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mac You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #93

mac
The AFL code are losing me.
I have tried to rise above the PC overkill telling me how to think and behave and rule changes which has made the game more frustration to watch.
Viewing the game on TV in 2019 has become more lacklustre dull talkfest of Victorian bias, maybe I am missing Dennis Cometti.
It's never been a National Comp when the Vic base clubs like Carlton Football Club wants their VFL 15 premierships dating back to 1877 to be recorded and added to their single AFL 1990 premiership.
If that does happen Fremantle Football Club should be able to add South Freo and East Freo premierships count.
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The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #94

The_Yeti
Yeah, I know, right?

Here's me thinking that Reddit was suppository of all wisdom (thanks Tony)
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Drubbing You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #95

Drubbing
Is reddit any less credible than most Sports journos 'sources'.
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Raglan Matt You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #96

Raglan Matt
Yeti, you have nailed the problem with what transpired. The fan was charged, convicted and hung, without a trial.
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The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #97

The_Yeti
Well, RM, you have to ask yourself if this is now the standard the AFL are going to apply from this point onwards.

If not, then an apology and retraction should be in order from the AFL. Personally, I doubt this will happen because in the AFL world, the umps never do anything wrong. Apparently it's such a difficult game to umpire that the AFL says the umps have a 1% error rate.

Thats a lower error rate than almost any other sport.

If it is the standard the AFL is going to apply from this point onwards, then I suspect they'll be playing to empty stadiums because 95% of the population will have been banned.

Nothing like stupidly painting yourself into a corner
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teasea You're A Bald Headed Flog 4 years 10 months ago #98

teasea
Just watching Coll/Melb game 2nd qtr - won't be many left in stadium if this standard of umpiring continues. Neither side know whose ball it is!
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