TOPIC: You're A Bald Headed Flog

The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 6 days ago #113

The_Yeti
Now you're exaggerating, Richmond.

There were only six armed policemen
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shane You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 6 days ago #114

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Err...ummm...they had two guns each.
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The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 6 days ago #115

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You know, ya coulda just said they were fat and left it there....
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hypen You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 6 days ago #116

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In any case, I'm not saying a bloody word this weekend.
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Morgan You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #117

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I’m not sure why you always make it personal yeti, but my point is you’ll always find someone on twitter, or talkback, or reddit or footy message boards to support the allegedly aggrieved party. If you have 200 odd people in a block of course you’ll find people that agree he did nothing wrong. That would be the case even for something egregious, like a racist or homophobic remark. That doesn’t mean that what the guy did or said was appropriate or that his version is ‘accurate’.

Also, it’s not like someone called 000 and the cops missed a burglary because of this guy. You have to remember that this has happened after the spectre of fan violence was raised by the numerous punch-ons at the Collingwood v Carlton game a few weeks earlier. There does always seem to be cops at games, but maybe they are on alert after the recent violence. This article is a bit pearl-clutchy for my tastes, but I think there is something to this.

People act as if maintaining safety at an event with 75,000 people, many drunk and agitated men, is easy. Again, this was one guy in a crowd of 75,000 who was asked to pipe down. Of course there is a volume, or at least consistent volume, when supporting becomes something unpalatable. There is also a line where ‘supporting’ looks a lot like provoking others.

You all seem to act that (literally) policing this line is easy. There would minor incidents like this every week. On some occassions I reckon security/the cops regret not stepping in sooner, and on some occassions they probably overreact. It's only news because it's found its way into the talkback feeding cycle.
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shane You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #118

shane
Look, we don't know what happened. We weren't there. Maybe you should wait until there's some evidence before you make conclusions about the gentleman's behaviour.
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hypen You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #119

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I don't know why you choose such a sometimes irreverent and reasonably light hearted football chat platform to feel a need to expose double standards, poor thinking and hypocrisy, Morgan?

Look, the guy got told by the police to stop barracking so loud whilst sitting in a dedicated section for his team.

The police did that. Its a bit rich.
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shane You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #120

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I reckon they should just ban grog. That would make security's job much easier.
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The_Yeti You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #121

The_Yeti
Ok so now the witnesses are lying...all of them.

If he was acting anything the manner you've tried to suggest, then he would have been thrown out. The patron was asked to lower the volume. Thats it in it's entirety.

Suggesting he 'was being an enormous knobber' with literally zero evidence to support that is exactly why people respond they way they do.

So far in this thread you have attempted to justify a person being turfed out because of a suggestion that he made a homophobic remark, even though a 3AW reporter heard it and interviewed others in the crowd who heard what was said and the word used was flog.

Then you attempted to justify him getting turfed because he insulted Nicholls near the race and not from the third tier. So, different application of the same rules based on perceived potential butthurt. Seriously?

Now a bloke is an enormous knobber, even though the witnesses all said differently because witnesses....right?

He wasn't being a knobber, he cheered one goal too loud and was asked to lower the volume

edit: Let me add one more thing that the police know that you might have missed but the fastest way to trigger a crowd of blokes who have been drinking is a heavy handed response, you know, like six coppers telling a bloke in his team's designated area not to cheer so loud.
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hypen You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #122

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Fine by me (on the grog) but can we change our current game plan first ?
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Morgan You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #123

Morgan
Sure shane, and maybe you should wait until there's some evidence before you make conclusions about the heavy-handedness of the police. It’s not like I started the conversation by banging on about what a great job the cops are doing.

I take your point hypen, and sometimes I ask myself the same question, but I don't think this is an irreverent and light-hearted football chat platform these days. It seems much more like an echo-chamber for the most cynical and pessimistic voices in the crowd. There’s already talk-back for that, or The West when it comes to Freo.

But maybe you’re right and I should leave everyone in furious agreement on how terrible and corrupt everything is. Suggesting things aren’t always that bad doesn’t make anyone any happier.
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shane You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #124

shane
Honestly, hypen. You can say what you like. Security aren't carrying you down that many stairs .
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pollyanna You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #125

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Yes, I wondered how long it would take before full strength beer got added to the mix. Naturally, with only mid strength and queues that are 10 kms slower over here in the west, this abuse thing is a particular Vic problem.
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hypen You're A Bald Headed Flog 1 week 5 days ago #126

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Those beers are garbage anyway, Polly. Particularly the Alby larger.
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