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TOPIC: Bolton Sacked

Grub Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #15

Grub
So it would seem or that’s how it’s been reported but who would know? Sending a senior player back to the twos for swilling a couple of reds on a school night smacks of desperation to me (and possibly fuddy duddy micro management) but has this been a problem for four years? If it’s been an OK strategy for that long and now it’s not because the W column looks sick then I’d want to see a few of the necks that signed off on that strategy being placed on the block.
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cletus Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #16

cletus
Well...I'm not so sure about all this. Carlton went into this with open eyes. Inexperienced, untried coach...but appparently, the best around. Gave him a list full of 'great, talented kids', and told him to 'build a team' .

Employed a 'Team of the Century' fullback to steal players from the startup club he was previously employed with.

Not sure what they expected?...

I reckon its a bit harsh on Bolton really....and yep, 5hongs havent gone his way. But would think greater introspection would be placed on the decision makers at the top, rather than the head coach.

Seems to be a cop out to me....
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frankmac Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #17

frankmac
Haven't they given up their top draft pick for next year as well????

Which I would suggest will be number 1. Good call.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #18

shane
I think coaches have become too specialist. They earn the big dollars and are the focal point at the football club but a lot of them seem to have narrowed their role to just football strategy. Game plan, match day moves and whatnot.

What should have happened over the past decade is that the football manager should have become the main person in the club. They should be the obsessive micro manager, across every detail of the football operations, with good knowledge in fitness, development, tactics, planning, boot studying, skills development and so on.

They should be getting the big dollars at the football club. They should be the person who is highly sort after. The person who gets sacked when things aren't working. Someone with a great experience and knowledge of all aspects of preparing a team for a game of football.

The actual coach would just need good relationship with the players, get them revved up, get them all on the same page and pulling in the same direction and give the instructions on match day.
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Noddy Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #19

Noddy
St Kilda could have lent them the sack they used previously.
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purplepower Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #20

purplepower
Soon it will be Lyon
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Grub Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #21

Grub
It’ll never happen Shane. Good in theory but the whole supplementary industry that employs ass coaches would be in jeopardy.
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hypen Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #22

hypen
Hypothetical question, Carlton approaches Ross Lyon with a five year contract at one million a year. Lyon a) says no I have another year with my current employer b) uses it to leverage another 2-3 years from his existing employer?

If it's the latter what would he do if Fremantle say "were not extending at this point"?

Edit: Robbo just said this on 360, I wasn't paraphrasing him.
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purplepower Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #23

purplepower
There's no point.....it's not going to happen
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larkin Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #24

larkin
Why would he hypen? He's one trade/draft period away from a very very good side that could play finals for the next five years at least. He's rebuilt a side from the ground up and is on the verge of greatness – Freo Greatness – that is. His life ambition of coaching a grand final winner is more likely to be fulfilled at Cockburn Central than he will ever get with Carlton.
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Mushroom Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #25

Mushroom
It's pretty clear to me that Bolton talked his way into that job with the last of the Mad-Men boards who love corporate w**k-word bingo as a ruse for footy knowledge.

Bolton talks like he should be the CEO of a dodgy Managed Investment Scheme company and those Italians at Carlton were excited by the idea of the quick bucks. They got the goat's head.

I reckon footy administration has changed now. You won't see another one like him for a long time, and the public and media scrutiny is too great to just pay people off under the table these days. It's going to be elite football leaders with a strength of character to bring footballers with them from now on, not just namby pamby talkfesters.

The game will be better for it.
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hypen Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #26

hypen
Job security Larkin. It's five years compared to one.

On the dream of coaching a flag you'll know the Carlton list is a plumb job.

Carlton is an attractive job.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #27

shane
Of course he'd take the 5 year deal. And of course he'll use these two vacancies to leverage his contract negotiations with Fremantle. He'd be stupid not to.

Are you saying Lyon is stupid, Larkin?
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larkin Bolton Sacked 4 years 11 months ago #28

larkin
No
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