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moodindigo Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #29

moodindigo
We should hire some goons in the mid-season draft. I prefer the hands-on touch you only get with hired goons.
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Quasimodo Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #30

Quasimodo
Pot kettle black. Bloody Carey was the biggest protected species there was when he was playing.

There was a bloke who called himself Fat Alberton who was a bit of a satirist in the early days of web bulletin boards he even wrote a fantasy season that satirized the real season and had Carey taking an Uzi on the field slaughtering the opposition team and the AFL saying he had no case to answer. Carey got away with hard bumps week in week out, it is a contact sport and how he played the game hard but fair.

The bloke is a dead set hypocrite.

For mine none of the incidents from Ablet and Fyfe were reportable due to no intent and insufficient force. They were hard but fair, possibly a free kick but no more. As for Gaff, well what he did was common assault, the gap between them is huge and Carey is a goose searching for relevance.
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Dockermus Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #31

Dockermus
Not offering a criticism of the journalist involved in this story, rather it serves to illustrate what a rudderless ship the AFL has become, and what a bloody mess the whole MRO/sports governance issue has become for Gil & Co. No wonder the media is the tail wagging the dog, because it seems like there's no one with any commonsense in charge at AFL House.

Goal post blunder
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WAL Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #32

WAL
Journalist should be criticized, it isn't against the rules as they stand to jump on the goal post.
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guy smiley Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #33

guy smiley
That's the sort of weasel wording the AFL use to avoid having to make a judgement on something that might embarrass them, WAL.

Under AFL rule 17.11, a free kick is to be awarded against a player or official who intentionally shakes a goal or behind post.

It might not be against the rules to climb a goalpost... but Rampe got up that thing and shook like Elvis Presley. Clear free kick on the goal line. Gillon agrees... contextually...

To hear AFL CEO McLachlan tell it: “Yes, technically [it was a free kick] but it’s, like all things, it’s context … where and when.”
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Raglan Matt Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #34

Raglan Matt
Sorry, GS, the report I saw obviously did not include the whole interview.

As far as the Rampe incident is concerned, if the AFL was serious about sending messages, they could have quite easily and justifiably given him a week for misconduct.
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Raglan Matt Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #35

Raglan Matt
GS, there is a typo there.

Should read "it's context, Who and when"
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Morgan Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #36

Morgan
I don't understand why people still have such strong opinions about Rampe climbing the post. Myers’ shot fell 10-15m short, so you can’t really say some minor indirect post-wobbling affected the outcome of the game.

There’s one rule about post-shaking, and it doesn’t quite cover what Rampe did. The umpire in a high-pressure situation had to make a decision whether to apply an ill-fitting rule and decide the game on a technicality, or use his discretion, make in his view a common-sense call to tell the player to knock it off, and let the players decide who won. I think he made the right call.

The AFL then had to decide whether to effectively condone what Rampe did, suspend him for (maybe?) breaking a rule, or give him a fine because on the night he was basically acting like a knob. Again, I think they made the right call.

But just so we’re clear, do people actually think the right decision is that Essendon was awarded a free kick and the game was decided that way, or are people just flapping their hands in the air saying ‘where is the consistency’?
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Quasimodo Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #37

Quasimodo
Morgan its the internet people flap their hands its what they do whether its AFL, NRL, Game of Thrones, Captain marvel or who won lego masters. people are more flappy than Dean Cox.

For mine the ump made the right common sense call for the reasons you stated.
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CaptSnooze Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #38

CaptSnooze
Myers is a good kick.
If Hill concedes a fifty for throwing a tuft of grass in the air, then Rampe concedes a free kick.

Actually coming from the round-ball code where diving has been a total blight for half a century, in principle I don't mind the AFL match review and tribunal system.
In practice though, apart from the usually minor punishments for infringements, the AFL's 'courtroom' style dramas make attractive headlines, and promote their dominance of the back page. In the absence of a 'contempt of court'' gag, I think the concept can work, but only if it is better administrated and more consistent.
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moodindigo Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #39

moodindigo
Its a red herring to say Myers was a long way out and it didn't effect the kick because it fell short. What if Rampe had punched some Essendon player unconscious while they were both standing in the goalquare waiting for Myers to take the kick? That wouldn't affect the kick either but would presumably still have been penalised.
If its a free, its a free. Half the frees paid in a game are for actions which arguably didn't affect the game.
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pollyanna Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #40

pollyanna
Andy Krakouer would've kicked that goal - post shimmy or wibble wobble, it wouldn't matter.

The tv guys wanted a goal, no way could Myers deliver one. So they carry on about a Sydney bloke that's a few nickels short of a buck to try and get the goal. Ain't going to happen - even trying to weave it into some grand conspiracy ain't going to get that goal for the tv guys.
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Morgan Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #41

Morgan
You could make a pretty strong case punching someone is against the rules, and the spirit of the game.

Dry-humping a goal post is a grey area, at least as far as the rules go.

I reckon it’s for the best that an AFL game wasn’t decided by an umpire paying a free kick for a player dry-humping a goal post.
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Quasimodo Award winning journalism... 6 months 6 days ago #42

Quasimodo
Reminds me of the old joke about the greek fisherman.

Rampe in years to come wont be remembered as Rampe the goal kicker, or Rampe the umpire baiter but Rampe the Goalpost dry humper.
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