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Raglan Matt Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #15

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GS, I for 1 have no objection to Fyfe getting a week or 2 for that, in the past I have objected to an Ablett or such getting off while Fyfe gets a week (or 2). This time round it is Durdin(?) who got time for something less than what these 2 did.

My biggest swipe at WC is that he singled out Fyfe, while neglecting to mention the others who did the same or worse, and that he made any sort of comparison to Gaff's incident. The only ones that come close to Gaffs' were Martin and Dangerfield, who also hit players 60= meters off the footy and McGovern who took a cheap shot similar distance away.

At least Duffield included all these players in his roundup, although I am surprised he did not use Durdin as the example for players who could feel victimised by the situation.
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guy smiley Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #16

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He singled Fyfe out?

A fired up Carey accused the AFL of double standards when it came to former Brownlow Medallists Fyfe and Gary Ablett – who was also cleared.

“It’s because Sam Durdin is a young player trying to make his way… he’s not one of the Brownlow favourites that’s why,” Carey said.

“I’ve said for a long time that if you’re one of the gun players of the competition, and this has been going on for a long time, you will get a little more leniency.

“If that was Durdin doing what Fyfe did, he’d get three weeks.”

He totally lined him up there. With Ablett.
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Freo66 Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #17

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I said to a mate on Monday, they both (Ablett/Fyfe) get a week or both get off.

Black and white.

The AFL had a chance to rectify Ablett's hit the week before on Monday but bowed to the Vic Media and Scott's ramblings.
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The_Yeti Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #18

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Carey did make at least one valid point that has been raised on Dockerland for many a year, the AFL is inconsistent in it's dealings. Thats across the board. The MRO can't even agree with himself from week to week let alone have the AFL be consistent in its approach in any aspect of the game other than consistently put money before integrity.

As for Fyfe, how many times has he been suspended for a raised elbow? It's something he absolutely needs to get out of his game. A captain can't afford to keep getting suspended for the same offence and this week, he was a very lucky boy.

The comparison to Gaff's actions was just a little over the top but I'm guessing thats how media people try to stay relevant.

I would just add to that by pointing out that Carey complaining of preferential treatment of the game's big names has about as much credibility as a Carey lecture on how to treat women. The hypocrisy is astounding.
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shane Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #19

shane
No one set out to do anything wrong and no one got hurt and he wants them to get suspended for 3 weeks? Odd.
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hypen Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #20

hypen
And that was his point Shane. Bones get broken on a football field from careless acts committed by people who "don't set out to do any wrong". They're just careless, late to the contest, too slow in their old age, or unable to control their emotions when the team they are leading is losing. Go back and look at when Fyfe does these things, there's a clear pattern.

There simply has to be room for potential to cause serious harm in our laws; there has to be. Why is attempted tripping a reportable offence?
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rogerrocks Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #21

rogerrocks
What is the penalty for head high, low impact, careless? Because Fyfe and Ablett both get that. Unless the impact is too low to constitute an offence.
Actually, Ablett's didn't look as "careless" as Fyfe's. It looked a bit more intentional.
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shane Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #22

shane
Attempted tripping? Get out of here. You want to punish people who set out to do nothing wrong and then do nothing wrong.

You didn't attempt to hit someone and you didn't hit someone so ... 3 weeks.

It's illogical.
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hypen Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #23

hypen
Should Alistair Lynch have been suspended for all the haymakers he threw at Shane Wakelin in the 2004 Grand Final?

Yes or no?
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Morgan Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #24

Morgan
There was some controversy about Fyfe’s hit against Collingwood last year, but it was obvious to everyone at the ground that Fyfe was frustrated about getting flogged and was running around trying to hit blokes. One of those hits got someone high. It seemed a no-brainer as a suspension in that context, which might have been lost in just a 10 second video.

There was a bit of that again on Sunday.

I like that losing stirs some emotion in him but he’s too important to lose to suspensions. Also, he might actually hurt someone one day.

In ice hockey there are informal roles on teams; broadly a demarcation between ‘skill’ players and ‘goons’; the latter’s job is generally look after the skill players and be the player who responds physically when necessary. Fyfe is a skilled player who acts like a goon.

But it does raise the question, who are our goons? If we’re asking Fyfe to stop playing an enforcer role, who else does? Is it an outdated concept anyway? Is it possible to be a goon without actually hurting players and getting suspended?

Personally, I think the team needs a little more mongrel. Just not from Fyfe.
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hypen Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #25

hypen
Its 2019 Morgan, there are no goons.

There's a TISM song in that. Where have all the goons gone?
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Morgan Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #26

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You're probably right.

For decades now our backline has been populated by very fine young men. Dawson was a bit clumsy, but otherwise it was a challenging but relatively safe place for the opposition to ply their craft.

That's why I always liked when we had someone like McPhee or Suban down there. Neither were thugs, but they had a certain twitchy energy to them. I think we lack that.
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rogerrocks Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #27

rogerrocks
Certain players need to be told that if they aren't at least fined a couple of times a season, they can't expect a new contract.
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shane Award winning journalism... 4 years 11 months ago #28

shane
Lynch was attempting to punch someone, with a punch, via the act of punching. That's a completely different genre of the tribunal.

Fyfe was attempting to bump someone. If you attempt to bump someone and you have a raised forearm, and they get hurt, you are responsible for that. If they do not get hurt then there is nothing to be responsible for.
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