TOPIC: Injuries?

Corporal Agarn Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #15

Corporal Agarn
Morgan-no we're not.
No other club has the amount of soft tissue injuries that we have and no other club has the same amount of players with recurring injuries that we do. Bennell, Sandilands, Hill and Logue. Blakely?
Geelong-Cockatoo
Hawthorn-Birchall
WC-Natanui
Melbourne-Lever
Collngwood-Dunne
All of the above, except Birchall are knee injuries.
We have had a continued amount of important players missing over the last few years and it has always been one of the excuses for our poor form.
I know we don't like comparisons to WC, but they basically have the same amount of travel, home ground, etc, but they consistently have less injuries than we do. At the moment they have only three players out, none with soft tissue inuries and one of them is for personal reasons.
So you might think everything is okay, but it's no wonder other people don't.
I would have thought it was pretty obvious something wasn't right if your club publicly announces that they are going to have a review into the amount of injuries that occur.
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The_Yeti Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #16

The_Yeti
CA, it's just Morgan doing his usual.

Don't feed the trolls
Egurls Suck!
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Morgan Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #17

Morgan
We’ve got, what, three of our best 22 unavailable this week? That’s pretty standard.

People talk like it’s an epidemic.
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Derby12 Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #18

Derby12
I assume you mean Sandilands, Blakely, Bennell?

Hard to say if Logue is in our best 22 because he's always out injured ...

Ballantyne might be in our best 22 if he hadn't been cruelled by injury over the past 5 years ...

Oh, and I'd love to see Valente and Dixon play - but wait - they are injured ...
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Alvin Prpl Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #19

Alvin Prpl
I'd say it would be 4 of our best 22 out this week and they have been out all year, only Blakely is likely to play in the near future.
5 if you include Ballantyne.
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Alvin Prpl Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #20

Alvin Prpl
Oh that's right 6 if you include Logue

Sandi, Hill, Bennell, Blakely, Ballantyne, Logue
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Corporal Agarn Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #21

Corporal Agarn
Morgan always likes to deal with factual information, but when you try and give some in return and he doesn't like them he heads off back to being his contrarian self.
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Morgan Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #22

Morgan
Saying "no other club has the same amount of players with recurring injuries that we do" isn't a fact. It's just a thing you've said.

I agree we seem to have more soft tissue injuries than other clubs, but given we have roughly the same number of total injuries that just means we have fewer other types.

For the record, I would have thought Hill, Logue and Blakely would be in our best 22. Given most people would have delisted Bennell last season, I think it would be a little disingenuous to count him as best 22. You could probably make an argument that a fit Sandi would be starting 22, but given where we are I think anything that takes games away from Darcy is a mistake.

There's also another aspect to fitness, and that's how well our players run out games. I'm not sure what you think, but to me it looks like we're finishing off games with something left in the tank.
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pollyanna Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #23

pollyanna
Quick question - has Fyfe ever played a full year?
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teasea Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #24

teasea
Off the topic a bit but still on injuries ....... Daniher in for an injured Zac Clarke, bloody calf!
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Morgan Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #25

Morgan
Yeah, a bunch of times. He averages about 17 games a year, which isn't bad for a bloke who plays the way he does and who broke a leg.

Interestingly, Fyfe has spoken glowingly about Weber in the past. I wonder if that's part of the reason Freo are reluctant to let him go.
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Raglan Matt Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #26

Raglan Matt
Of course Fyfe spoke glowingly, Morgan. Gone are the days when players are allowed to speak their mind on anything. It is all about saying the right thing, not the honest thing.
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Morgan Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #27

Morgan
I was thinking of the year he won the Brownlow, and he credited Weber for the special program he designed for him - and that Fyfe took extra sessions to do.

Of course, I suppose it’s possible overloading contributed to his later injuries. Who knows, I’m not an expert.
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Derby12 Injuries? 1 month 1 week ago #28

Derby12
Morgan - it's been my observation that we generally sit in the worst 5-6 teams for total injuries most of the time. There are often a few teams worse off than us, and always a large number better off.

But the thing is, the other 5-6 clustered around us tend to change, round to round, season to season, but we stay anchored in that group.

We also don't seem to list all our injuries, which makes it hard to track - Valente is a case in point. We often seem to have players that are mysteriously not playing for Freo or Peel, but aren't on the injury list. Now it may be that all clubs do this. Not sure why they would though?

But when you take out the ACLs and the breaks, which are generally one off incidents with long term repercussions, we seem to have far more than our share of players who continually re-injure themselves and spend extended time away from the game. And it seems to happen a lot before they come back in to match play.

But even if we are just in the normal/midrange for these injuries as you claim - is there anything wrong with wanting to be the best? To be a competition leader in managing injuries and recovery? Even you can't possibly claim that we are anywhere near that. But shouldn't we be striving for that?

We have state of the art facilities, money to spend on the medical staff - Why should we accept anything less than excellence? Why would you want us to?
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Raglan Matt, Corporal Agarn, Burton said You Beaut