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TOPIC: Cobblers

hypen Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #1

hypen
www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/respected-af...20190318-p515am.html

Couple of things, successful football clubs let their specialists do their jobs, CEOs don't over rule.

I recall being a lone voice in warning us not to turn our backs on the last draft.
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Tricolour Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #2

Tricolour
As Caroline Wilson said, we have "a history for taking players with problems".
It seems to me that we have finally been getting the drafting side of things right, but when it comes to trading we panic - we see a desperate need and desperately fill it. Our gambles are not paying off, and they cost us in more ways than money. I wouldn't mind if we were gambling on players with injuries, but we are gambling on players with questionable character. I believe that Hogan may well suffer anxiety, but so do I and I don't turn up to work drunk. He is not in control of himself and that means he's not only going to disrupt our season and his own career, but also the culture and unity of the club (and that, long-term, is worse).
The fact is, there are lots of inspiring stories of athletes battling adversity to achieve success, but when the adversity you're battling is your own poor decision-making, there's rarely a happy ending. I hope Hogan comes good but the way the club's mishandled the situation so far doesn't leave me brimming with confidence.
Perhaps if the club stopped throwing spin at their supporters and starting communicating honestly with us I'd feel more optimistic about our future.
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Corporal Agarn Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #3

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Tricolour Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #4

Tricolour
Well, when you can't even get the name right of the mental health condition that you're telling everyone Hogan suffers from, people are going to start to wonder if the anxiety line is being exploited to halt criticism - because no one wants to look like they're attacking someone with a mental health issue (well, except for The West, which is now essentially The Daily Mail).
The suspicion is that "mental health" will become the equivalent of "general soreness" when someone's fallen off the wagon and their club don't want the ugly truth to get out.
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Suker Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #5

Suker
If he was on the grog, just say so. Team rules etc. Miss a week.
The anxiety, surely Hogan had to consent to it being mentioned. But why add the clinical bit. Did they think that because it has previously been diagnosed, they could refer to it as clinical? Was there no actual discussion with a doctor re the condition?
Poor show Freo, nevertheless, shut T F up Whately, Robbo, Lyon, Langdon and all you peanuts etching a living out of opinion and others' mistakes.
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Raglan Matt Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #6

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Suker, it seems to me that most of those doing the talking in the 2 articles have an axe to grind with Freo. All the names you mentioned have a history of making up stories about Freo, sensationalising "bad news" stories about Freo and sticking the boot in in more ways than 1 (Judd). While their is truth in what they say, most of it is just an attempt to keep the story running. They must have known what was going to happen in QLD last night.
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Alvin Prpl Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #7

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"Respected broadcaster Gerard Whateley" respected by who, who actually wrote the article that is just basically a just bunch of quotes.
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shane Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #8

shane
How's Karl Langdon's form. Someone from the club made him look silly during the trade week by feeding him dud info.

Now Karl is storing up photos of Hogan from social media sites, sending them to club officials to try and make his prophecy come true. What a grub that man is.
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zorro Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #9

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I reckon if you put together a list of pundits who either crapped on Freo for not getting Hogan over the line over the past 3 trade periods or congratulated Hogan/Melbourne for him staying at the Dees, you’d see many of the same names who are crapping on us for getting him.

Then there was Zempilas and his attempt to equate Jesse’s circumstances/behaviour with Cousins. Tool.
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Corporal Agarn Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #10

Corporal Agarn
I bloody well hope that Hogan is being looked after properly because after the club's weak efforts since arrived, topped off by their pathetic media disclosures he needs someone caring for him.
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Suker Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #11

Suker
Care? Sure hope so.
But the priority is to get Basil off the air, out of the public eye and under all the care and support services available.
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Corporal Agarn Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #12

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"Poor show Freo, nevertheless, shut T F up Whately, Robbo, Lyon, Langdon and all you peanuts etching a living out of opinion and others' mistakes"

That's never going to happen unfortunately Suker, because they're paid to do it and they know that the general public love a bit of muck raking. There are of course degrees of professionalism and good sports journalists. I have my opinion on who I think are a waste of space up to those who I am inclined to show some respect. Others of course may differ in their views.

In saying that there are obviously people here who will disagree with me but I thought Whateley's summation wasn't too bad and actually goes right back to similar things that Shane(i think) said when the first reports of issues came out on Monday.
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wingman Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #13

wingman
Let's stick to the facts. Provided he doesn't get injured he needs to kick a minimum of 40 goals for us this year then it's an absolute fail by the club.

But in the event any new pics get sent around social media of him plastered again then it's a absolute disaster and both CEO, Coach and board should go.

Looking at the first team that ran out and the amount of games they played for Freo, (excluding Bell) and you can see this club has been a disaster from day 1.
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Suker Cobblers 5 years 1 month ago #14

Suker
Yeah, I’m just venting Randolph. But Whately makes no secret of his dislike of Freo. Declaring that bias taints all his comments. His carry-on a few seasons ago when we rested players for a trip east leading into the finals, smacked of a man with some irrational thoughts beneath a measured exterior.
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