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shane Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #43

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You're wrong. The context of sustained success was around us making the finals in 2003, 2006 and 2010 without following it up again. It was used as a criticism of previous teams and administrations. It didn't mean make the finals every year but it meant no 3+ year rebuilds.

What has happened over the past 3 seasons is exactly what sustain success was supposed to be about not doing. They failed spectacularly at their goal.
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mac Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #44

mac
Fifteen points is only the three goals which the players missed five years ago.
I lot of change has happened since then as in players, players, players on so on, and a new training HQ.
Membership is still strong which is good with what has been served up in the past couple of years.
The rebuild was a excuse for bad management and no (old) game plan.
Until the Fremantle FC have a no "Dead Wood" policy for players and off field staff progress will be slow and average.
As in any business having people employed in positions and not being productive ain't a benefit to company goals.
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The_Yeti Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #45

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It's an interesting view that 'sustained success' involves neither sustained or success.

I'm pretty sure I don't agree with that because it's an invention to deflect justifiable criticism of sub par performance.

How many times have Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong not played finals in the past decade? They're your examples of sustained success and not winning a lowly 20 games out of the past 66.

Good thing our rebuild is finished isn't it
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Bizkit Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #46

Bizkit
I was always pro everything the club did and you can look back at my posts to the Drum years to confirm that. I was behind him all the way along with Connolly and Harvs. I was behind every player and you can see that with my defense of everyone including the likes of Schammer when the crowd got into him about his kicking, Tarrant when he first came over and failed as a forward, Croad similarly or even Sylvia.

I don't like being negative about the club. It sucks and no one here wants to read or write that rubbish. There's enough of it outside the club.

The current admin and people in charge of the club have forced a much more negative view with their complete Trump like control and bulldozing of everything the club means to the fans. They speak in riddles that mean nothing and tell supporters what they want them to believe as they drag us down the toilet. I can't swallow any more of it and can't sit idle by while they ruin the club further.

When they say rubbish about rebuilds, restructures, sustained success and whatever else, I'm not letting them get away with it anymore. I'm not Jezza. I don't like arguing with people like Morgan who is only trying to temper the angst and bring perspective but these days we're pushed into it due to the way the club has evolved.

At this point I just want a new start with a fresh admin I can get behind and back to change the direction of the club. These guys have completely lost me and ruined what should have been a dominant decade for Freo.
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jimb2 Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #47

jimb2
"Dominant decade." Seriously?
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jimb2 Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #48

jimb2
How many games were you expecting to win with last years playing group?
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Bizkit Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #49

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The team we had in 2010 should have been there or there abouts for the next 10yrs. Not one good season and the horrible footy that saw us somehow finish on top in 2015.
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #50

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More than 8, that's for sure. We actually did worse than the year before in a number of areas.
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Noddy Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #51

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I like Jezza’s positivity so I’ll follow that lead and say the dominant decade ...which is a long time...may not be a decade ...I think is panning out in front of us. What a great squad we have. Maybe could do with a more proven coaching squad...we’ll see in 2019.
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #52

Corporal Agarn
To my way of thinking you don't come out and sign a coach for five years on one of the highest salaries in the competition, claim that sustained success is expected then fall away in the most dramatic fashion in VFL/AFL history with no consequences to those who were in charge and made the wrong announcements and positions in the first place-board, coach, ass coaches, medical team, recruiters, whoever.

People should be held to account, but the way we are structured they're not. It wouldn't happen at a Victorian club.

The only ones who paid for the poor decisions were players.

I notice that the 88% of NAB shareholders just gave a vote of no confidence in the package put forward for a new pay scale for their executives. I see us as similar. Let's face it, it's a business, and if your business is failing changes need to be made.
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Morgan Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #53

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Bizkit, for what it’s worth, I get where you are coming from. There are certainly some things about the way the club is run that trouble me, and I’ve said a bunch of times that I would prefer someone took a broom through the club a bit, starting with the CEO. I can honestly say my intention on this place is, as you say, to temper the angst and bring perspective, but a combination of my frustration with the negativity and my underlying smugness means I often play a part in the conversations devolving a bit. It’s a bit of a failing of mine, but the alternative seems to be to let the worst possible interpretations and assumptions go unchallened. That doesn't really feel comfortable to me.

But I reckon we’ll find out one way or the other how the future looks during the upcoming season. Sounds like the President thinks the same way.
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Jezza Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #54

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I don't subscribed to negativity, EVER. The words sustained success is now every clubs mantra. And please don't tell me that Vic clubs don't go through pain. The Hawks and Geelong aside, the other Vic clubs have had some barren years. Both Hawthorn and Geelong's golden years came via a fruitful draft and trade period. Sydney's success was assisted in some ways by the COLA. The Slime, well who cares. Salary cap breaches and clubs with a drug culture are normally the reasons why a massive clean out (coaches and admin) would be instigated. All that's happened at Freo since 2012 was that we undertook a re-stumping and endured some pain. If that's the worse thing that has happened to the club, then I'd suggest people need to take a good hard look at themselves. It's time to get back on the bus and see where it takes us. If you're gonna whinge take another form of transport.
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moptop Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #55

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Jose Mourinho (who has an impressive record at some of the world's biggest clubs) just got the arse from Manchester United less than halfway through the season because they're "languishing" in sixth place.

That's the behaviour of a club which demands sustained success.
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Morgan Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #56

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I think it's more the behaviour of the richest football club in the world in a sport where there is no salary cap.
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