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TOPIC: Rebuild is over

The_Yeti Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #29

The_Yeti
Has anyone seen Morgan and Jezza in the same room?
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #30

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Jezza, your mantra changes by the year. Actually no it doesn't. Every pre season you say we will make the eight and how you will personally see Roly out the door if we don't, blah blah blah.
And then you spend the rest of the season making excuses about why we were crap again and how your man crush is still the best coach ever and nothing in our continued poor showings is due to him.
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Jezza Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #31

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We’re a no excuses club. The facts are and pretty sure I haven’t wavered, that a list turnover of around 30 players since the debacle in 2016, contributed to the pain. But plenty were hammering the club about the haemorrhage. Not many wanted to see the big picture but plenty thought that Roly couldn’t get us out of the mire. They wanted blood and in some ways the exit of Lloyd and Bond stemmed the bleeding. Still they weren’t happy. Now the call of “ The Rebuild is Over” still got people wanting to reach for the TNT. I say, rejoice cause this is the news we’ve all been waiting for.
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #32

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"I’d say that mantra is pretty solid, with the president stating that the dark days are over or words to that effect."
Words to that effect- haha. Love it.

Well if our invisible president says so it must be true. Let us all rejoice.

I prefer this quote though.

I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact-Winston Churchill
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #33

Corporal Agarn
We're a no excuses club? Since when? Even you don't live by that mantra.
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Davo Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #34

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The rebuild is over but the complaining never stops.
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The_Yeti Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #35

The_Yeti
I don't know who is complaining other than Morgan and Jezza but I for one am very happy the rebuild is complete.

There are no complaints from me about that announcement but as has been pointed out, talk is cheap and results are what actually count. I think we should all be expecting, nay insisting on excellent results.

After all, no excuses, right?
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teasea Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #36

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My interpretation was that it was telling Roly 'rebuild over, can't use that excuse anymore, improve or else'. Fingers crossed that's what it meant. Unlike some I'm prepared to give Alcock this year before bagging him as he did inherit some of the crap we are in although being on the board he may have had some say in it.
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Raglan Matt Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #37

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My interpretation is that they are telling the people what (they think) the people want to hear. The same as they have done since June 2015, when they realised sustained success would not happen with an unsustainable coaching strategy.

Like Yeti, I believe the rebuild needs to start from the top or it will fail again, as the 2016 and 2017/18 rebuilds did.
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #38

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Agree Teasea. I don't want to read and hear words of platitude. I just want results.

I'll be more than happy just like everyone else when we start consistently winning but I just don't want people telling me every year how fantastic everything will be, then backtracking when things fall apart again.

I think we will improve this year, but then again I've thought for the last couple of years. if not, surely more changes will happen in the coaching brigade.
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darthmarto Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #39

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If the rebuild is over, it’s because our team is in finals contention according to the staff of the Freo Footy Club.

Problem with that is our history would suggest the staff don’t have a lot of experience with spottingwhat a Fremantle team in finals contention looks like ... particularly in December.

Forgive my scepticism but surely this is just comforting platitudes to keep us positive over the Christmas break and not actually supposed to be taken seriously?
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Drubbing Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #40

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Gees, Jezza, you squeezed so many tired clichés into that last post, and yet you missed 'taking us to the promised land'. You're slipping.

Until next post then...
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Corporal Agarn Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #41

Corporal Agarn
Roly feeling like he's found nirvana after this year's trade & draft period is my fave Jezza ott statement.
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jimb2 Rebuild is over 5 years 4 months ago #42

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Sustained success is along term thing. It doesn't mean that we will play finals every year or something like that. It can't mean that that we will play finals every year or something like that. Football isn't like that. Life in general isn't like that. Some people have found it suits their emotional requirements to assume it means something like that but this plainly unrealistic.

If you are running a an organisation or a business - or even just yourself - there are things you need to have in place to succeed. If you run a one man delivery business and your truck keeps breaking down, the simple answer is you need a new truck. This won't guarantee profits but it is an underlying requirement that you have a reliable service so the orders keep coming in. That's ok for a one man show. If you run a big trucking business, you don't just buy new trucks at random times, you need systems that ensure that all aspects of your fleet are handled. You have purchasing objectives, your maintenance guys are properly trained, your maintenance facility is big enough and has the required tools up to the job, there's backup plans for when things go awry, etc, etc, etc, and that therre is a stucture in place that ensures the whole process get regularly reviewed and problems get fixed by more than band-aids. That's the idea of managing for sustained success. It won't guarantee that trucks never break down, drivers don't get sick, or every day goes perfectly. It means you can deliver a service and handle the ups and downs without needing to go into emotional turmoil.

"Sustained success" wasn't a personal guarantee to anyone that the club will play finals every year, never lose games by big margins, or whatever you personally wish for. It isn't about wishing. It about getting multiple structures and processes in place that will allow the the club to succeed, not every game, not every year, but to improve the long term record. Obviously, this was going to upset a few people. New ways break traditions and grate on existing culture.

Fremantle was run on the "buy a new truck" method for the first 20 years and while I can tell you it was fun for me personally it didn't achieve a lot of success. The current board and management have vision and plans to change that, even if it hurts. Will they succeed? We don't know yet, ask me in 20 years if the second two decades went better than the first two. (Seriously, it won't be that hard.) The board and management have some good credentials for managing and developing organisations and businesses but maybe they're just a bunch of incompetent jerks and we were better of chugging along the bottom of the table happily with occasional flourishes to keep our spirits up. We don't know. It's a long term goal.

What you can be absolutely sure of is that the sustained success vision of the board and management is not what some people around here imagine it to be.
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