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TOPIC: The Worst Year Ever

Raglan Matt The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #57

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They have a lot of media and official help in covering up those cultural issues, and that has gone a long way to giving them at least 1 if not more flags.
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Morgan The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #58

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You know how sometimes there is a really trendy restaurant that's always full, so someone opens a similar restaurant right next door with the intention of servicing the overflow of patrons that can't get in to the good place? That's what the WAFC set up Freo to be. It was up to Freo to make itself something better.

To follow this (forced) analogy, the original managers of Freo decided there was no point being a direct imitation, and instead tried to provide a different offering. We were a little bit more casual, and little more quirky, and a little more fun. Sure, we didn't win any awards and we'd never be as popular as the fancy place next door, but the regulars loved it, and on its day, you wouldn't want to be anywhere different. Both sets of customers could look to the other, and genuinely say 'I don't know what they see in that place'.

The the new managers came in, got rid of the comfy furniture, changed the menu to 'Modern Australian', and tried, wherever possible to imitate the fancy place. For a while it worked, kind of, but eventually it was exposed as a poor imitation. Now, when the customers in the original fancy place look down their nose at the regulars of the knock-off joint, and wonder 'what do they see in that place?', it's a legitimate question. It's why some of the locals have stopped going.

That's where Freo are now. it sucks. People are complaining about the head chef, and the front of house manager. They are a symptom, not a cause. The problem is the place doesn't know what it wants to be. The owners genuinely want us to be a knock off overflow place, and so that's how we are being run.

To Polly's point, I don't know if it is the WAFC, the Board, the CEO, but the club is rotten.
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hypen The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #59

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That was really good Morgan.

But you have made me hungry.
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Gumnut The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #60

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And onfield we had a group of entertainers including Scotty Chisholm, Clive, Macca, Jeff Farmer, Medders, Dessie, Modra and others, a group of buskers or circus performers brilliant on their day but just couldn't get it done on the big stage. Many of our supporters have cried out for an end to this, including our inaugural colourful garb, called on the Steves to give us a persona more like the mob up the road in order to mimic their success. They rid us of Harvey, a guts and glory style of coach and gave us Ross and co who would give us a Premiership in 3 years. He tried and failed with the team that Harves had built and has now taken us to depths of mediocrity never before seen whilst blaming the lack of talent on the list and not the failings of his coaching style for our predicament. With the intro of Peter Bell hopefully we will see a return to some of our old values and if Ross doesn't change then a new coach couldn't do worse with the abundance of talent currently on our list.
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pollyanna The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #61

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They're like one of the big banks revelling in their excesses and profits. Sure, you stump up to a Royal Commission and acknowledge that it was wrong to foreclose on that farmer and flog off his life at four cents on the dollar, but you know full well that you can just go back to the same old game after a bit of quiet time. You just have to go to the backbench (or the free corporate seats in the sun) for a bit before rising up and taking control again.
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calvin The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #62

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It's a matter of giving your all to the club, team and coach. I don't think many players in our team have that desire. When they see the club turn a blind eye to many of the thing highlighted in this post - they become jaded. There are many in the team who were perplexed with the resigning of Bennell and Ballas (LN is one of them), coach not even tapped on the shoulder with his misconduct.

Unfortunately the mob up the road do for their coach. They are a crap side on paper, but all give 100% for the coach. I heard a report that Simmo has made the focus of WCE to be more of a player family friendly club (copied off Hawthorn). It has worked.

What do the Dockers need to change (apart from coach, his style, CEO and board)?
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cletus The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #63

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Very good Morgan, but when your restaurant only has chops, mash, peas and carrots to work with, the head chef cant pretend he’s Heston Blumenthal and punch out “ Salmon poached in licorice gel “ complete with liquid nitrogen and all...

Head chef should use the ingedients he’s got, and get on with simple hearty home cooked meals. At the moment, the customers are restless and leaving because the cooking is rubbish. !

At the moment our little eatery is a perfect candidate for “Gordon Ramsay’s Kitchens from Hell’. And Gordon would throw his arms up in despair, and walk out ‘ effing and ceeing’all the way....
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hypen The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #64

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What the past three years have taught us is you can go from zero to 100 in a year. The one commonality amongst the past five or so flags has been the leadership style of the coach that translated to a level of engagement from players.

The playing group is capable, can Lyon and Rosich change? If they can truly change success is in sight.
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rogerrocks The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #65

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Exactly Morgan. No doubt there are important men somewhere (and not necessarily within the Freo hierarchy) who made the decision for us to become West Coast Lite. And I bet they don't even think it was a mistake.

Some might think that my complaints about the constant game day noise at Perth Stadium are light hearted. They aren't. I hate with a passion the creation of an environment suitable for people who don't really care about Freo or even footy. The triumph of style over substance. Its not a footy match - just a couple of hours entertainment. And it doesn't matter if the bum on the seat belongs to a passionate Freo fan or a fairweather supporter - its just money.

I'll be signing up again next year. But I will be looking very closely at the club management and letting them know if I'm unhappy. Yes, I'll be just another grumpy old man. One who obviously didn't fight hard enough for the song, the jumper and staying in Freo - mistakes I hope not to repeat.
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Flag_2005 The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #66

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I don’t know what ‘crap side on paper’ means these days. People said the same thing about Richmond when they won the flag.

I look up the road and see Kennedy, Darling, Shuey, McGovern, Hurn, Barrass, Yeo, Redden (to name a few) and they look pretty solid on paper (especially in the key posts).
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Drubbing The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #67

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I think everyone knows the history. It was only recently made official that Freo were set up to fail and dilute WC power base. The AFL achieved one part of that, with Freo's considerable input.

It's up to Freo to find some big picture thinkers at the top, who are realistic, capable and focussed. Not dreamers, copycats and ad men.

Then you start to write your own history, instead of being a victim of it.

Until then, we're stuck with also rans from top and bottom, and it's no surprise that's exactly where we're at.
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dddocker The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #68

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Success breeds success. Winning breeds winning. Winners attract winners. That's it in a nutshell for WCE. For the Dockers it has been the exact opposite. There'll be a lot of parents praying their kid isn't drafted by the Dockers.
When a kid walks into the Dockers he sees no material examples of success - where is the silverware? they ask. There is nothing to lift the spirit. The club is empty of positive vibe and motivation.
The WCE has been the most successful club since the VFL expanded to the AFL. We are also rans.
Things will only change by winning a GF (or two). Somehow we have to fluke it and get that silverware. When? God knows - literally.
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Morgan The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #69

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Our CEO was poached from West Coast and our President was a West Coast fan. Their instincts on what makes a good club are different to ours.

Think about what happens when ALH buys a pub - think the Sail & Anchor or the Hydey - I’m sure the books are better, and in some ways there are improvements, but do you like them more or less after they have been rendered more generic?
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Drubbing The Worst Year Ever 5 years 7 months ago #70

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Worst thing that happened to Little Creatures was taking the big boys money.

Now all that's left is a bland brand, that Big Beer are flogging hard.

Rosich has done the same. Because that's all he sees football as - flogging a brand. Success is easier to sell.
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