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TOPIC: Neale & Brisbane

Docker 26 Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #43

Docker 26
If he goes then lets take their pick 5 and next years 1st rounder and throw Charlie Cameron in with the deal.
Ross said he is looking for some speed.
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The_Yeti Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #44

The_Yeti
Better a Lachie than a Chad, just sayin'
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Corporal Agarn Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #45

Corporal Agarn
There seems to be a lot of difference between this rumour and the Bradley Hill one.

For a start this one is coming from multiple sources. Roly was straight onto the media commenting on the Brad Hill one, but nobody from the club, the coach, or the player is discounting this one.

I agree that this is a bad sign. Neale would surely be our next captain and money hasn't even been discussed, so what would make a S.A. boy want to go with his W.A. girlfriend to Brisbane?

It would have to be one or a combination of these wouldn't it?

i. more than we are willing to counter offer.
ii. He rates Brisbane as a better chance of making the finals before we do.
iii. he's unhappy with something or someone at his current club.

Is Jezza's exodus starting?
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rogerrocks Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #46

rogerrocks
We've done well out of players wanting to leave (as opposed to us ditching them), so I reckon we could do ok out of this. Or rather, if we don't do ok out of it, the club won't let it happen.
Having said that, I've never warmed to Neale that much. I mean, I rate him as a player, but I honestly think I liked Hayden Crozier more, and Dutchy, Mzungu and Barlow much more...
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Jezza Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #47

Jezza
Points ii and iii, are just laughable CA. I’d be seeking a trade to SA if I was Neale. Adelaide perhaps would be enquiring surely. Port is about to lose Polec, both the SA clubs would be finals bound before Brisbane next year after they’re disappointment this year. I’d be worried if the SA brethren come knocking.
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Corporal Agarn Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #48

Corporal Agarn
It may be laughable Jezza, but then again so is your prediction strike rate.

As stated, it's Brisbane that are interested and no person including him has said he doesn't want to go. S.A. clubs have said nothing.
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Detox Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #49

Detox
He is a restricted free agent next year. That is worth considering. Although if we finish down the bottom next year I am guessing compensation would be much the same as pick 4 although this years top end is supposed to be pretty dam good. They might put their first 2 picks on the table because they have so many high picks already at the club and believe they have the young talent to challenge next year with natural improvement.

If he wants to go and we can get fairly compensated we pretty much have to do it.
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Morgan Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #50

Morgan
Players and clubs are mostly grown-ups about this sort of thing these days. The discussion has probably gone along the lines of:

i. Brisbane is looking for an inside mid and has had a pretty long run of selecting kids early in the first round (many who want to go home in a few years).
ii. Neale is one of the best inside mids in the league, and at an age where he next contract will likely take him to the end of his prime.
iii. Brisbane spoke to Neale’s agent, who probably said something like ‘he’s happy enough at Freo but I’ll ask Lachie the question. What sort of deal would you be offering?
iv. Brisbane probably offers more than Freo (as they would need to in order to entice him).
v. The agent speaks to Neale, who probably says he is happy at Freo but wouldn’t say a hard no to that sort of deal.
vi. The agent and Neale know he is under contract, but he is an unrestricted free agent next year, so they approach the club and ask whether there is a world in which a deal would get done.
vii. Freo probably says ‘we’d hate to lose you, but if you were keen to go, we’d want at least their first round pick for you know rather than lose you for nothing next year’.
viii. The agent probably gets on the line to Brisbane and says something including the top 5 pick would maybe get it done, so it’s probably worth having a chat about this in trade week.
ix. The agent knows that even if Neale doesn’t end up in Brisbane, it’s not the worst idea to give Freo a sense of his worth to other teams in the league.

I don’t see anything wrong with that sort of discussion, and it’s not one you can easily shut down because, realistically, anything is possible. You could read all sorts of things into the rumour, but it’s just as likely this isn’t indicative of anything other than an agent doing his job, two clubs appropriately valuing Neale’s worth, and a player keeping his options open.
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Grub Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #51

Grub
Or he is not picking up what the coaches are putting down. It’s all speculation for sure but this one has legs and has been kicking around for a while.
He has served Freo well and as much as I would love for him to stick around this is a much better opportunity to get a great deal than one where the player wants to go home. Similar to Weller, the player and one club has made a decision. Milk it for all it’s worth. It’s an opportunity to get a real strong hand in a supposedly strong draft.
And Hypen. You are right - something smells when Freo lose players of this quality and it’s not even a go home factor.
Clive forbid we find ourselves with a bunch of interstate players wanting to go home in a couple of years time a la Cerra.
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IMHO Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #52

IMHO
I think the Morgan summary of events is very feasable and logical.
This could morph into something rare in that all parties may come out feeling winners.

Neale ends up with a truckload more money (surely a big factor here)

Lions get quality inside mid

We get a good shot at quality tall, and IMHO a shot at Ian Hill, one of, if not the best small fwd this draft. Both picks are the type we so desperately need.
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Jason Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #53

Jason
One correction there, Morgan, Neale’s a restricted free agent next year. So any rival offer we can match.

But if he wants to chase the coin (which seems unlikely as we apparently have plenty of salary cap room) and we got a ‘Weller’ type deal out of Brissie, then not much we can do to keep him.

However, I couldn’t think of a better way to elevate his next contract with us - both in terms of dollars & length - especially with a wedding coming up soon.

A lot of speculation without any ‘official’ response from either club. When that happens we’ll all be the wiser.
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Bizkit Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #54

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As Jason points out, Neale will be a restricted free agent so we can force Brisbane to trade with us by matching any offer. His contract status becomes a bit irrelevant in this case.
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expat Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #55

expat
That's an idea, their picks 4 ,22 & 40 for Neale & our pick 77.
Now do they really want him that badly?
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Morgan Neale & Brisbane 5 years 8 months ago #56

Morgan
No-one wants him that badly. Let's say Sydney offered Luke Parker (who is in the same age and talent bracket). Would you offer your first three picks for him?
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