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TOPIC: For The Love Of Roly

Raglan Matt For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #15

Raglan Matt
"It hasn't been the best list management performance but were also chasing a flag up to 2016."
We had one shot at a flag. 2013. From then on the unsustainable game plan took it's toll. If Lyon stays on as coach we will not progress from where we find ourselves right now. He will not change or even vary what he does, will not take advice from assistants, so surrounds himself with sycophants, and will continue to talk gibberish to deflect the criticism he deserves. Wake up Rosich, sack Lyon and Bond, then resign and go back to the eagles nest.
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Corporal Agarn For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #16

Corporal Agarn
Try up until 2015. in 2016 we won 4 games and finished 16th. The biggest drop off from minor premiers in AFL/VFL history.
Another unwanted Fremantle history statistic.
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Jason For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #17

Jason
I’m sort of hoping the clubs sticks with Roly until 2020 - if for no other reason just to clean out those “supporters” who spew such bile about everything to do with the club that it makes the WA footy medja seem balanced.

I simply cannot see a number of posters on here not suffering a stroke or finally moving onto another club to ‘support’ if that happens.

How you lot can sheet the entire blame for our losses onto the coach - but completely exonerate the 22 blokes wearing purple jumpers who actually played the game - then do a complete reverse when we win - beggars belief.

But pure hatred knows no logic.

I’ll say it again - I do not support Roly for the sake of it. I support the club - period - in words and deeds*.

* (paying my membership & turning up to games)
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Raglan Matt For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #18

Raglan Matt
Hey, Jason, I don't think you read these posts too well. Some of us are not blind, and see what is going on. The fact that we have had few wins lately makes your argument a little shaky to begin with. Then, you might see that after some of the games that we have won, attention has been brought to the fact that tactics that enabled us to win should be self evident as winning tactics. I have said in the last year or so that we have looked to have changed our game plan, only to watch the next week when the same old "run all the forwards up the ground then back again" tactic resurfaces.

Go back to my posts after the first Carlton game this year when everyone was hailing the rebirth of Lyon. I did say that we played an attacking game for the first half, but thought that the return to a super defensive pattern after half time did not bode well for the rest of the season. Against Port we went out and attacked early and got the jump on them, turned defensive and battled to hang on. This is the pattern for all our wins since 2013, and it is also the pattern for our close losses. When was the last time Freo put a side down the way Geelong treated us yesterday?? We should have done that to Carlton Gold Coast and the Saints this year, but coaching strategies do not allow it. I rest my case with that, there are none so blind as they who will not see.
PS I am Freo until I die, and for a long time after that. That is why I am so passionate about the path being changed.
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exceed For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #19

exceed
Well keep it up and keep doing what you do.
Hopefully in your mind convince enough supporters keep doing the same and making excuses.
Then you will get exactly what you have got over the last 20 plus years a club that has never been successful or respected for another 20 plus years.

Maybe the club needs to change because it has got nowhere doing what is has been doing.

Supporters should expect better , and its not a matter of supporters jumping off, but proactively demanding better.
They are our representatives. Maybe they have kept some members happy , obviously, to put up with the last 20 plus years, but it is possible to demand better.
Maybe the quiet kumbahi supporters are starting to be over powered by this is enough supporters.

Remember how the hawthorn supporters stepped in when they were about to go under and demand more, or how the hawthorn president demanded a better performance from Alistair Clarkson.

Great culture is demanded and expected , and those who simply clap and live on hopium get what we got.

Enough is enough.
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Montrachet For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #20

Montrachet
Its a broken record. 2015 we finished minor prems. 2016 we went in thinking we were a chance.

Stop trying to rewrite history
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rogerrocks For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #21

rogerrocks
I wonder how many calling for Ross's head have hated him since day 1?
I hated him when he coached St Kilda, because they used to beat us every time.
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guy smiley For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #22

guy smiley
Jason,

'spew such bile' and 'pure hatred' are really questionable phrases to be throwing around. It comes across as either simply emotional or immature. It's also highly divisive.

Perhaps that's what you want. All those who don't agree should be rounded up and shipped off to leave you in peace to enjoy the magnificence.

All supporter bases are divided on key issues, none more than coaching in the AFL. It's part of the game. Leaping to the 'us and them' rhetoric is backwards thinking, mature groups can debate without going to extremes.

That said, I'm rarely in here now simply because of the relentless negativity. Some of you should spare a thought for what you're doing to debate and discussion in here with the trademark humour drowned in a sea of longwinded anti RoLy posts. You know who you are. Your selfish rants are ruining the vibe, man.

I'm no fan of RoLy, never have been. I've (begrudgingly at times) acknowledged the positives and even this year there have been plenty to see. It takes a bit of a deep breath sometimes to stop and accept that things aren't as simple as you want them to be. There's a lot going on.

Nothing will remove RoLy before his contract's up, that much should be clear. So rather than endlessly repeating the dummy spitting about him and his perceived faults, how about directing some energy at the real cause of the angst. The management of the club and the direction taken since 2011. If half as much effort was put into pointing a finger at that as there is at RoLy then you'd see some attention paid to it and some heat would be applied... and that's the only way anything's going to change. Heat on the management.

All this anti RoLy stuff has just become so much bleating now. That's no excuse for talk of hate though, Jason. There's too much hate in the world. Let's talk about something more positive.

Ducks... and Anatidaephobia. That's an issue that needs addressing.
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Jason For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #23

Jason
RM, I read these posts TOO well and I think you confuse supposed changes in game plan (which sort of contradicts those who claim Roly has no Plan B) to changes in execution efficiency, fitness and confidence.

So either Roly does have several game plans at his disposal that he can apparently switch around at will - or the team is unable to execute the same plan across a entire game. Which one is it??

We have been playing heaps of kids the past two seasons (which sort of contradicts those that claim Roly has never developed a list) and you cannot build an AFL-standard tank & physique overnight.

There is a reason why Premiership-contending teams have a games-played average of over 100 as that translates into 4-6 preseasons.

With less strength & stamina, younger players fall away the longer the game goes. Look at GWS in their early years. All the talented kids in the world couldn’t win games of footy and they copped some absolute floggings along the way. Sound familiar??

We have never been a team that scores heavily - we’ve only exceeded 150 points 11 times in our history. That’s an average of once every 49 games or every 2 and a 1/3 seasons.

So the free-flowing, high scoring ‘style’ of which many speak of is a foreign concept to this club - and dare I say it - to the more successful teams. Didn’t do Adelaide much good last year when it counted.

The last two Premiers played a high-pressure, fast-moving, end-to-end style of footy. An updated version of Roly-ball, if you will.

That style requires mature bodies, with big tanks and plenty of confidence. We have about 5-6 regular players that would have all of those attributes. Fyfe, Barra, Lachie, both Hills, Walters, ?? Blakely and Langdon are getting there.

We also do not play the same style of footy we did circa 2011-16 - mainly because we haven’t got the players to execute it. Plus changes to rotations has made it harder to maintain that across a season.

I can only deduce from when the current ‘style’ is working (i.e. we have 25+ scoring shots) that it is based around roll-off defence, quick spreading, accurate passing and pushing through the middle when possible.

Where we have come unstuck a lot is our delivery inside 50 - which usually ends up becoming a score against for all the reasons mentioned above.

My point is, it’s the same ol’ same ol’ from the same ol’ same ol’. That is, no matter what - all the problems of the playing group and their performances will be solved by sacking the coach/admin/board. Guess what? They won’t and more than likely, based on our history and other such current basket cases, it’ll make matters worse.

Elite players tend to leave disorganised, coaching-merry-go-round clubs. We’ve been there before and I do not want to go there again.

Considered decision-making & long-term planning tends to end in better outcomes than rash, knee-jerk calls made in the heat of the moment to appease a few.

I have every confidence that the club, as a whole, will keep everyone accountable and that the rebuild plan they have publicly committed to will be executed successfully.

So RM, should I put you down for a stroke then?
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Ricco For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #24

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Don’t know which thread to post on, but Hill, Neale, Fyfe, Walters are around 27 years old now.

In the 2020 season when we were told we would return to the promised land they will be just shy of 30. From there it is probably down hill in terms of individual performance. Even Hill now is showing signs of breaking down.

In 2 years there is no Mundy, no sandi, no Ballantyne. Pearce, Johnson, Spurr already gone.

Don’t worry about the young kids, there is a lot of pressure on the Blakelys, Langdon, t-bones and Ryan’s of the side.

I think we are in a world of trouble.

Fyfe will be similar to Pavlich in that he is a once in a generation player who has missed out on ultimate glory by playing for freo.
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rogerrocks For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #25

rogerrocks
29 is a very good age. You may have slowed a little, but your ability to be in the right place and do exactly the right thing is better than ever.
But yes, we need the young players to come on. And we need guys like T-bone to hang around playing for Peel most of the time but getting a game in the bigs when needed.
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Morgan For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #26

Morgan
I think I've said this before, but I've always thought the best comparison for this season was 2009. Like our current team, we had some quality at the top of the list, but our young blokes were pretty raw, and some of them weren't up to AFL standard. Although we had a few good wins that year, we only won 6 games in total, and we had some absolute stinkers. Most memorable was that shocker in Adelaide where we only kicked one goal against the Crows and lost by 20 goals.

I wasn't sure if Harvey knew what he was doing at the time. I'm still not 100% sure, but in 2010 we burst from the blocks and that was the start of a pretty good run for the Freo footy club.

I can't see why that can't happen next year.
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Straddo For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #27

Straddo
Fyfe is a pretty good player in a pretty average team. I wouldn't want him kicking for goal after the siren to win us the game. Poise under pressure is what enables teams to win games (and stop opposition runs of goals) and that comes down to situational awareness, team support and ability to execute. Most of our side is on the less experienced side and unless you're a natural, game awareness developes over time and with feedback from your peers and coaches. Team support is about the other players being in the right place at the right time and this comes down to the game plan, the coaching and the players ability to follow the plan. The last one is about skill level and ability to do what is required in the modern game.

How do you fix it?
Get games into the young guys - this is consistent with our approach this year. The longer the core group plays together the better they will perform in the long run.
Team Support - Ross needs to drill the guys on the plan, and get the forwards to stay where they need to be. The amount of kicks I've seen to outnumbered contests in our forward line beggars belief. Even in The Game We'll Never Mention Again, there was some good forward movement of the ball only for it to be wasted down the field. If it takes getting Goddard to come over and give the guys a spray at least I'd feel comfortable knowing that at least 1 player on the field was prepared to call out his teammates and not just droop his head and think about his personal sponsorship line (ala Fyfe)
Skills - start training now, hire the best skills coaches the club can afford and get them into it. If you can't hit a player on the chest at 30m 9 times out of 10 you don't get a game. Apparently Cockburn isn't a bad facility, so get the boys in there in the off season and go hard on the skills.
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Jezza For The Love Of Roly 5 years 8 months ago #28

Jezza
Ok it’s taken me 24 hours to sober up after a few clarets. These loses can’t be excused. We’ve no doubt copped a hackle from all and sundry. Remember the last time in Adelaide when we broke records for all the wrong reasons. Well we survived that and played in a GF. So we’ll survive this but the club has to stick by Roly until 2020. Sacking the coach is the easy way out.
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