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Gerovich This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #29

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I don’t think anyone here wants to lose Cerra, but if he doesn’t want a new contract, and really wants to leave, he would be a pretty good bargaining chip.
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Detox This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #30

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Yeah if Cerra wants out that’s good for both parties.. I like the look of Hill.. quick and beautiful kick on both feet.. been a bit quiet at the champs and I would have liked a few more goals.. Izak Rankine is the best small forward if he’s available.. probably won’t be though
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391 This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #31

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Agree on Cerra - if he wants out or is still not signed within a month or so his form and perceived upside from 2018 suggests someone in Vic would trade him for a top 10 ... maybe even top 5 pick.

Hate to see him go.

Imagine the pain of watching him, Petroski-Seaton and Cripps in their prime for Carlton [insert face palm emoji]
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Morgan This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #32

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Dom Sheed is a good player, but West Coast taking him two picks ahead of Cripps makes me chuckle a bit.
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Corporal Agarn This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #33

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Sheed can't get a game at Meth Coast at the moment. Not sure why though because when he does he plays better than others who get a regular run.
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Corporal Agarn This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #34

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If McAdam is from Halls Creek isn't that our development zone and if so did we miss him earlier or what?


www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-09/sanfl-wat...am-in-the-draft-mix-
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mule This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #35

mule
As I understand it, the strategy is:
- use future picks to get into rounds 2-4 of the draft
- target 3 free agents (26 yrs or under) over this draft and the next (heaps of coin available)
- lock in Cerra
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Bizkit This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #36

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McAdams is 23 so well past it when we started up our academy zone a couple of years ago.

Everyone is rating Kelly far too high atm on the back of some good form. He's had a very good year for a debutant but as he should at 24 and in his prime. He'd be handy to have but he isn't a top 10 pick with maybe 5 years left in his career (assuming we were in premiership contention atm). There is absolutely no reason to go offering our first round pick for a middle aged debutant if we are rebuilding. Give him another year to run out his contract and see how things are then.

Flag, Hill was never going to come to Freo for nothing. He was going to come home cheap though. That's supposed to be the benefit of bringing back West Aussies who are homesick and the flip of the coin to Eastern states players going home. Picking him up with a year left on his contract decreased our leverage in the situation and when we were rebuilding and going to struggle with or without Hill, there's no reason to pay market price to get him early. Same story with Kelly.
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Corporal Agarn This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #37

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Any Banfield, Kelly, Ryan, McAdam types in there early 20s out there that we could be looking at Biz?
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Bizkit This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #38

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To be honest, I don't watch much WAFL on tv and certainly not any other state leagues, preferring to take a look at kids or the AFL. I've only sat through half a dozen WAFL league games this year and that's to watch Subi which isn't much fun. Hendrix has looked good though!
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Corporal Agarn This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #39

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Actually I think I remember McAdam. Did he play at Claremont two or three years ago? If so he was on some clubs radars then. Went back home when he missed out.
If it is the same guy, not sure how or why he popped up in S.A. but he had great pace and a good leap. You would think he would not go too highly in the draft and as we have a stack of low picks he could be worthwhile looking at.
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Jason This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #40

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Cerra still has a year to run on his initial 2 year contract. I would imagine he and he club will get together at the end of the season and nut out a long-term contract for him.

I’ve heard no rumours/whispers that he’s either unhappy at Freo/in WA, homesick or desperate to play for a Vic team.

The hysteria surrounding him is only because he’s the only top 10 draft pick from last year to not sign a contract extension. Once upon a time (like 2 years ago) the notion of immediately extending the contracts of first year recruits was a foreign concept.

I personally think he’ll be a 200+ gamer for us and our track record of retaining our elite interstate talent is excellent. Pav, Mundy, Neale and plenty of others have stayed when better offers from teams in flag contention have been on the table.

Having said that, if for whatever reason Cerra won’t be extending his stay beyond next season, then they should seek a top 5 pick this year (he’s absolutely worth that) as we can’t afford to playing kids who aren’t going to stick around for our next wave of sustained success.
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Morgan This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #41

Morgan
If I was advising Cerra I would suggest waiting until next year before signing a contract. The only personal benefit to agreeing an extension early is that it guarantees a salary for the coming years, and it is one less thing to deal with or have to talk about. There are many other benefits: it makes your teammates happy, it makes your club happy, it makes the fans happy, but as long as you’re playing good footy those people will be happy enough anyway.

I just can’t see any risk for Cerra in waiting. Even if he had a significant injury, he’s done enough in this first year to ensure he’ll get a long deal from Freo or another club if he wants it.

He’s only been in Perth and at the club 8-9 months. If I was advising a teenager living away from home for the first time, I’d suggest giving it a bit more time before committing to stay or deciding to go home. It’s a pretty weighty decision, and likely one of the first big life decisions he’ll have to make.

Plus, no-one is really sure how Freo are going to look next season; halfway through next season we could be looking like a finals contender, or we could be terrible with a coach about to be sacked. Wouldn’t you want to see how things are playing out early next year before making the call?

So, if he doesn’t sign, and he doesn’t ask to leave, what do you do if you are Freo this offseason? I wouldn’t trade him now. I’d back Freo to turn it around next season, I’d treat him like he’s going to be a 200 game player for Freo, and if at the end of next year he wanted to go home I’d do everything I could to get him to the club he wanted to go to, so long as Freo got something approaching fair value. Sure, you take a small risk of losing some market value next year (I don’t think the leverage changes much between this and next offseason), but I have to believe that when clubs deal openly, honestly and in good faith with players, and other clubs, eventually that plays in your favour.

Given WA players are overrepresented relative to the number of AFL teams, Freo stands to benefit more than most from players wanting to come home. I also think that AFL clubs owe a duty to be good citizens when the league requires that young kids are sent far-and-wide across the country as soon as they are out of high school.
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Corporal Agarn This year's Draft 5 years 8 months ago #42

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"Plus, no-one is really sure how Freo are going to look next season"

I think someone is very sure.
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