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TOPIC: As bad as it's been

Grub As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #43

Grub
I reckon Ed Langdon has earned the right to point a finger or two as well. Impressive player.
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Corporal Agarn As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #44

Corporal Agarn
I get the impression that Luke Ryan will be like that too, I hope, but at this stage he's still finding his feet and trying to develop his, or Roly's game.
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Morgan As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #45

Morgan
Wilson is a ripper. Best kick in the team (or close to it), takes the game on, seems to care more than most, and started his Freo career with a sledge of the Eagles.

He’s a natural heir for the Ballantyne Appreciation Society.
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Raglan Matt As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #46

Raglan Matt
Every time Walters gives a payout to someone not putting in, he is sledged by the media and a few here for being nothing more than a selfish, egotistical showpony, but I reckon we need him dishing out the sprays as well as the footy. He loves his jumper and plays like it. No other player puts himself in harms way the way Mikey does, and with way less protection than any one else.
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Jason As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #47

Jason
It should be noted the WCE in ‘92 & Port in ‘04 were built around a core of mature bodied, almost State of Origin talent. WCE had a complete WAFL pool to draw from and brought back some Vic-based WA talent in Wilson, Glendinning & Annear to name a few.

Port paid a stack of talented players to remain in the SANFL and not nominate for the draft once they knew they were getting an AFL licence.

The Dockers were never in the position to do either.

Just for the record, of that list CA, there is a total of 2,383 games experience and yesterday we were missing 1,323 of them. Some of those include Fyfe, Sandi, Spurr and AAJohnno.

It’s not just the number of games but the talent behind them. I think most would agree that Sutcliffe is done from a Freo perspective. AAJohnno and D.Pearce are already announced as done. I expect Spurr and Ballas to go as well. Sandi is not looking good to go around again either with his injury issues.

Matera and Wilson are playing their first season for us and it is generally accepted it takes new players, even experienced ones, to adjust to their new team, game plans, travel burden, etc.

So of that list, I expect about 1,151 games of experience to depart at season’s end.

I would put it to you that we have one of the least experienced Dockers lists (in terms of games played for the club) since the very early years.

Our best forward has been out since Round 5 and we are missing our captain and best player and best ruckman. Apeness was showing a bit before his body let him down again. Cox and Darcy will develop into players, IMHO, but not overnight.

Our backline is looking good long-term and the opposition scoring is more a result of a lack of midfield pressure than from our backs losing one-on-one contests.

Our midfield has shown the ability to match it with good sides (not great sides, but good ones) and if we can lock in Cerra, Langdon and some of the other young guns that’s looking good long term as well.

So I’ll state the obvious and say our forward line needs work - plenty of it.

Key forwards don’t grow on trees - WCE only got Kennedy via the Judd trade - and they rarely want to come to Perth. Not in their prime, anyway. Even those from WA (Franklin & Hogan) would rather stay in teams that either play every second week on the MCG, only travel 5-7 times a year, and/or who only have to make one hour flights when they do.

Until the V(A)FL even out the travel for WA sides this will continue - and there is more chances of a GF being played at Perth Stadium before that happens.

But as bad as yesterday was - I still remember 2001 and we are not that bad.

I have attended 3 games recently I expected to lose and we won 2 of them. Back in those dark years that would never have happened - more like I would attend 3 games against lower placed sides expecting to win and lose them all. Then we’d beat some team that was flying, usually away from home, then return to form.

You don’t have an average winning percentage of 44% (which has been brought up considerably under Roly’s tenure as he is going at 56%) by winning games you’re expected to. To put that in some perspective, even with the past 3 seasons included, Roly has coached a third of our total wins.

So no, this is neither our worst season or the worse we have ever played.

That said, yesterday was terrible and I’m somewhat glad my industrial-strength hangover from my 50th party the night before allowed me the excuse to depart at 3/4 time. Inexcusable I know (apologies Morgan - no post match catch up this time!), but once in 24 years is ok, isn’t it??
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thecheg As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #48

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Remember when Mundy was chosen by the players to captain the team? It was a shock to most that Fyfe did not get the gig that year. The following year Fyfe was named captain (don't know if it was still players' pick that year) and I reckon that was a key to us re-signing him. Would we rather Fyfe with Freo as captain or no Fyfe?
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mac As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #49

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We have a problem more off the field.
We can't get a gun player to come to freo to fill what we need.
The home grown McGovern's snubbed us.
Modra has been the only non WA player that came and delivered in my view. He came because of being dumped the eve of a grand final & surf.
Name another player that wasn't coming home at the end of their career that delivered?
Maybe the home grown players policy worked back for another club in the past.
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Noddy As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #50

Noddy
The McGoverns were already with clubs and it’s not unusual for players to remain if the money is close and they’re happy.

Perth is the worst road trip, so it’s no surprise we’re low on the list of preferred destinations.
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Corporal Agarn As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #51

Corporal Agarn
Why is it do you think that WC always seem to be in finals contention? Forget our early years, but they have only ever bottomed out once I think in their history.
We are always the poor relation, and if Jason is correct it's not getting better any time soon.
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Noddy As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #52

Noddy
CA, because as has been mentioned before their recruiting of quality has a higher success rate I.e. higher number of better outcomes. The bloke in charge of their recruiting was and may well still be Trevor Woodhouse, he’s done a great job most of the time.

Our recruiting failures have killed us over time. The Board, CEO and Director football are accountable for that.
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Jezza As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #53

Jezza
I echo Jason's comments. But because of the Roly bashers, its difficult to put everything in perspective. We seem to forget that coaches before Roly delivered less success for Freo. But it matters not because Freo are boring etc, etc. Probably why most left early on Sunday. We've had worse times at Freo and it wasn't due to a rebuild.
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shane As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #54

shane
Freo 2019 - We've Been Worse
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The_Yeti As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #55

The_Yeti
So if we want to do what professional organisations do and hold well paid people accountable, we are 'bashers'.

Seems legit.

I'll try that one next time my boss wants to review my performance
Egurls Suck!
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rogerrocks As bad as it's been 5 years 9 months ago #56

rogerrocks
Maybe we never snared any great players from over east apart from Modra, but a few good ones came back - Peter Bell, Heath Black, Adam McPhee and AA Luke. And I was happy with Kepler Bradley and Dean Solomon.
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