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TOPIC: Pick 5

freo00 Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #183

freo00
Did B. Hill grow up playing footy with his brother at some stage all ?
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Corporal Agarn Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #184

Corporal Agarn
I also know a Hawthorn supporter who reckons that early on he wasn't that highly rated but he quickly realised that his run and carry, along with Isaac Smith on the other wing, was an essential part to Hawthorn's success. In the end he was in awe, like we now are, of how much ground he could cover in a game and how no opposition players could stay with him.

Lucky to play in a premiership side three times? Who are you kidding? That must make Clarkson a complete idiot for picking him once, let alone three times.

A natural footballer knows where to go get the ball, position himself, not get caught between play, etc. Hill obviously can do this. Not natural-athlete type footballers like Naitanui don't.
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Corporal Agarn Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #185

Corporal Agarn
Apparently not Freoo. Must have just stood around watching him and doing athletics.
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bozza Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #186

bozza
There is no such thing as a lucky premiership player. Unless you took it out in 2006.
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Noddy Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #187

Noddy
A definition of a natural footballer may be in order.
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Jezza Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #188

Jezza
Let's just say that S. Hill is probably the unluckiest footballer not to have won a premiership yet. You've stated it CA, Brad his early days he wasn't rated that highly. Hawks picked him up on his performance during the NAB combined testing. Clarko then groomed him into a terrific wingman. Together with Smith, they were unstoppable. The discussion was around his trait as a natural footballer or a natural athlete. I'm glad he's in our stables. There's only a handful of natural footballers in the current Freo's list. Walters, S. Hill, Bennell, Fyfe and Mundy. I'm keen to know if you'd find anymore.
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slammen Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #189

slammen
Paul Hasleby
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sqizzy Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #190

sqizzy
Don't wanna go all Brokeback Mountain here but I love Cowboy and think he's a natural.
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Corporal Agarn Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #191

Corporal Agarn
So you're suggesting that in a squad of 42 players, only 5 are natural footballers? Assuming that's about the same for other teams that means there is only about 90 natural footballers in the whole competition.

This means people who have played football since juniors are not natural, but athletes who somehow got lucky and became natural?

And Brad Hill and others in the competition who have played since youngsters just became lucky to have a coach who realised that they weren't natural and magically coached naturalness into them?

Maybe that's why Clarkson's record is so good and Roly's isn't.

Interesting that you only find the more well known and established players as natural. No young players in the competition or Freo to be exact. All just recruited for their athleticism apparently.

Off the top of my head-Ryan, Neale, Hamling, Blakely, Weller, Ballantyne(if you think Ballas is an athlete then I'm with Shane on your Martian heraldry)
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Jezza Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #192

Jezza
Let's just say some are just born with a gift. Like some are born leaders many just follow.
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Corporal Agarn Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #193

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Leaders and followers has nothing to do with athleticism and natural ability.

There are athletes who are leaders. There are natural footballers who are leaders and vice versa.
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Jezza Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #194

Jezza
I think you're missing the point CA. But to put it simply and in racing parlance, Winx is a freak. Footballers are not naturally gifted unless it's in your genes. Josh Simpson is a gifted footballer. Brad Hill is not. But he's worked his backside off to be where he is today. Often you hear him speak highly of his bro because he knows his elder sibling is a much better footballer than him. Perhaps we can agree to disagree on this and many other issues.
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Corporal Agarn Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #195

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Okay then although I don't think it's just me.

One last question though.Where does that put Sandi and Darcy? Were they recruited as athletes or footballers?
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jimb2 Pick 5 6 years 6 months ago #196

jimb2
Sandi was just big.
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