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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #99

shane
No you don't. You want to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the AFL to manipulate results, as a coping mechanisms for Fremantle being terrible.
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Bizkit PF2 6 years 7 months ago #100

Bizkit
I don't think this comes down to the 'poor Freo' complex you claim Shane. A bloke put his head over the ball and picked it up, he deserves to have his head protected and the AFL have been shouting that exact same thing from the rooftops for years now. All the talk of concussion and looking after the head and it's gone right out the window.

I believe Shiel got to the ball and effectively had possession first but even if he didn't, his head was certainly in the way and Cotchin came in shoulder first, bracing for the low bump to the head. He KO'd the opposition's best midfielder early in the game and that was effectively the difference as the Tigers got on top in the middle after that. There's no way you can whack a bloke in the head, concussing him out of the game and get away with it.

Based on Shiel's dealings in the media he's pretty upset about it and the AFL's decision to roll over.
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #101

shane
None of that happened.
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Yossarian PF2 6 years 7 months ago #102

Yossarian
I think you meant He ko'd the oppositions second best midfielder, who may or may not have been first to the ball, and was a little tentative hence was collected by a player expecting the physical contact that the makes the game such a thing of beauty.
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Davo PF2 6 years 7 months ago #103

Davo
Short memories. Fyfe was the Brownlow favourite and got off with a fine instead of a sanction after tripping Koby Stevens.
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Derby12 PF2 6 years 7 months ago #104

Derby12
And while the spotlight is on the Cotchin incident, the abomination that is the Ellis non-decision skulks off into the shadows around the MRP campfire.
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rogerrocks PF2 6 years 7 months ago #105

rogerrocks
Of course the AFL could prove Shane right. They could start next season with a series of videos of various hits, stating exactly how many weeks each of them would be worth. Then we'd just go, "Hey, that is pretty well exactly like the hit on Finlay Farquarson-Smyth - it'll get 3 weeks".
But the AFL won't do that, because they enjoy knowing that there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there who believe silly things. Like that Barry Hall's hit on Maguire should have been a suspension. Or that Johnno sticking his bum in that guys face wasn't worth 4 weeks.
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teasea PF2 6 years 7 months ago #106

teasea
But Davo was Fyfe on his third fine? I really don't recall. A list was put out prior to finals warning all those on 2 priors.
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Raglan Matt PF2 6 years 7 months ago #107

Raglan Matt
Hey Shane, change your password, Gillon McLachlan has hacked your account
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #108

shane
That's a preposterous accusation,


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Flag_2005 PF2 6 years 7 months ago #109

Flag_2005
Leading into this season Cotchin lived with the accusation that he was not hard enough at the footy and neededto lead by example. He's taken that on board and, in my view, gone too far the other way and often attacks the footy in a reckless manner as if to prove that he is, in fact, a tough and hard footy player.

The physical side of the game is, indeed, a thing of beauty but there is a fine line between being hard at the ball and recklessly KOing blokes and Cotchin got it wrong and so did the MRP.
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #110

shane
Just stop it. No one was knocked out. Twenty minutes and another collision later he had to stay off the ground because of a mild concussion. His main concern after the impact was that he hurt his shoulder.
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Morgan PF2 6 years 7 months ago #111

Morgan
Does anyone have footage of the Johnno one from 2007? People still bring it up as an example of bias against Freo, while neglecting to mention Matthew Stokes from Geelong copped the same penalty for the same action at the same tribunal hearing.

It was a classic example of the behaviour modification penalty at the start of the season.
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Suker PF2 6 years 7 months ago #112

Suker
I cannot understand the arguments...the video and still photo clearly show Shiel has the ball in his hands and his head being hit by shoulder. In any other situation during the year, this would be an offence. Likewise with Ellis. And the point is that wrong or right don't come into it, nor which team or previous incident...it is the inconsistency and apparent flexibility in decisions made by the mrp or whoever...
Arguing about which collision caused concussion does not take away the careless and clear hit in the head whilst player Shiels had ball in hands. And, usually acted upon by MRP.
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