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hypen PF2 6 years 7 months ago #29

hypen
You say some silly things.
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #30

shane
I reckon the opening quarter in the Grand Final will be so fast that, when Cameron Ling shouts something from the boundary about what it's like a ground level, his excitement will sound genuine.
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Drubbing PF2 6 years 7 months ago #31

Drubbing
No matter who wins, Jezza will somehow find a way to make it about how great Lyon is...
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rogerrocks PF2 6 years 7 months ago #32

rogerrocks
I thought the umpiring was ok.
And Morgan will back me up when I say that Cotchin has no case to answer. He was going hard for the ball, which is exactly what the AFL want to see.
And as for the other bump to the head that left one of the Giants shaken for a couple of minutes, well I saw one earlier this year just like it. I was expecting 2 weeks, but it turned out to be nothing at all, so I expect this one to be nothing as well.
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hypen PF2 6 years 7 months ago #33

hypen
Is there and should there be some relaxtion of the MRP rules in a prelim?
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #34

shane
There should be ... but then an Eagles player would take things too far and they'd have to crack down on it.
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larkin PF2 6 years 7 months ago #35

larkin
they do but maybe they shouldn't if its thuggery. At the very least points and a fine though knowing them they will justify it as points only knowing that next year there wont be any points.
There were plenty of instances of frees and potential MRP incidents that were and will be ignored. It all depends on the colour of the jumper - yeah thats what I think.
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fradonjan PF2 6 years 7 months ago #36

fradonjan
pretty sure cotchin has carryover points
and the other blond headed guy,(not caddy/i think he has points too.
they both could be gone
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DS PF2 6 years 7 months ago #37

DS
To miss a GF for that thing Cotchin did would be a travesty. The guy has a face you just want to punch but in this instance, he went at the ball and any damage to Shiel was incidental. Let the immensely hateble ****head play.
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Stoney PF2 6 years 7 months ago #38

Stoney
Blonde guy = Brandon Ellis.
MRP point system ended in 2014.

My take on the Shiel/Crotchin (sic) incident:
Shiel is first to the ball & as such deserves protection as mandated by the AFL in an attempt to protect the head.
Cotchin owes a duty of care to Shiel.

The ball is clearly in Shiel's possession, with both hands on the ball, when high contact is made therefore Cotchin chooses to forgo the option to tackle & bio-mechanically demonstrates an intent to bump by virtue of tucking his right arm into his chest & leading with his shoulder (which is fine but the onus in now squarely on Cotchin to avoid contact with Shiel's head) as opposed to extending his right arm in an effort to reach for & take/win possession of the ball. Intent: Careless
Cotchin makes contact to Shiel's head. Contact: High
As a result of Cotchin's decision to bump & subsequent forceful contact to Shiel's head he is concussed out of the game albeit at 1/4 time. Impact: Medium (at best) High (at worst)

Conclusion: 2 weeks down to 1 with an early guilty plea (medium impact). 3 weeks down to 2 (high impact)

The MRP have little wriggle room to adjudicate it to be a low level classifiable offence given it would be his 3rd such offence this season & as such he would automatically attract a 1 week suspension regardless of any early guilty plea.

Any other MRP ruling is a contrived, for the occasion & player/club involved, manufactured outcome.
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The_Yeti PF2 6 years 7 months ago #39

The_Yeti
Thats just a ridiculous comment, Stoney.

Since when has the AFL ever contrived an MRP call.....oh wait.....carry on...
Egurls Suck!
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #40

shane
You make a good case, except the players were contesting the ball and contact was to Shiel's shoulder. So it won't even be assessed.
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Raglan Matt PF2 6 years 7 months ago #41

Raglan Matt
Funny how some players have shoulders, and some have heads. Cotchin had the opportunity to tackle Shiels, as Shiels had already taken possession, but was intent on hitting Shiels with a forceful bump. Once he had taken that option, Cotchin had to make sure he did not hit the head. He did not take enough care. He hit Shiels on the jaw, and caused a concussion. That is what the medical report SHOULD state, but I have no doubt that the MRP will take the view that initial contact was with the shoulder, and any other contact was incidental.

That is not the view they take when Fyfe, Walters or Darcy are the ones in the gun, but hey, we are paranoid and biased conspiracy theorists ayy? The similar incidents I recall this year that went unpunished were both hits on Walters.
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #42

shane
That's just not true. Unless you're describing Ellis and Whitfield.

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