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TOPIC: Work rate

Jezza Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #15

Jezza
This is not our worse loss. Losing to Adelaide in Adelaide in torrential rain was. Don't need to know that it was a pointless exercise. We've had huge losses in the past during the Drum, Connolly and Harvey eras. So we copped 100 point hiding. It was more disappointing to lose to Geelong and GWS, when we were in commanding positions. Where were the naysayers then.
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dddocker Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #16

dddocker
I reasonably confident that we will lose by under 100 points next week.
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shane Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #17

shane
Yeah but what do you think about Paul Roos in the commentary box?
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walba Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #18

walba
Commanding position ?
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Corporal Agarn Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #19

Corporal Agarn
We haven't been in a commanding position all year. All our wins have been close.
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guy smiley Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #20

guy smiley
It's no use Shane,

he's back hypnotising chickens again.
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Spocker Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #21

Spocker
It is these types of results Jezza and poor effort that roll on over to next year. It is negative momentum big time. No 5 daft pick does not fix that.
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Noddy Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #22

Noddy
Tabs should get another game next week
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Corporal Agarn Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #23

Corporal Agarn
Biggest loss by any side this season. Plus plenty of other smashings along the way. Those sort of results don't fill you with any confidence for the future no matter where your draft picks are. Our biggest win was last week against a injury ravaged side whose coach was then sacked and who today got beaten by the the bottom side(who flogged us)by nearly ten goals
To put it into perspective, Carlton's biggest loss this year is 65 pts and their next biggest loss was less than 30 pts.
Our % is 2.6 off the worst in the competition.
We are so far off the pace we've been lapped.
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Drubbing Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #24

Drubbing
With a top 5 pick and no doubt more of the same next year, I wonder what other avenue of optimism Jezza will take. They seem endless...

Nothing wrong with optimism. But it needs a basis in reality, rather than crossed fingers and toes and unblinking faith in a coach, who if he didn't have a long term contract, would doubtless have a short term future..
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Rhufus Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #25

Rhufus
I honestly dont think Roos was really trying to bag the Dockers per se. What he was doing was providing cover and a cop out for his good mate Rosco.
By continually harping on about work rate, combined with Ross` comments at quarter time saying "you cant coach that" referring to lack of work rate, it was mainly about absolving Roly from the carnage.

We slip over more than any other team in the comp. That can be coached.
We allow that first kick from the back pocket by the opposition to be switched, every time, by merely guarding space but not close enough to tackle. If you covered that option that would force them to kick long down the line and any time you reduce the oppositions options they become more predictable and easier to play against. That can be coached.
When we are being slaughtered out of the middle and at bouncedowns you can revert to man on man. That can be coached.
Every time Griffen gets the ball he goes sideways or backwards, mainly because hes young and inexperienced and doesnt want to take the risk of going forward. That can be coached.
D Pearce turned over every single kick he had today. If its a one off you can just coach it. If its every game for three years then you deal with it at selection table.
C Sutcliffe cant tackle, has no strength and Ive seen only take 3 contested marks in his career. Thats selection panel.
Why is D Pearce and C Sutcliffe taking kick outs every now and again. They are turnover merchants. Select your best kick and give them the role. This is just poor coaching.
Tabs takes a few marks, 30 m out, takes two steps and stabs at the ball and misses two sitters that a guy in his position just has to take. Later on he takes 5 steps. That lack of repeatable method, whereby every time he should do the Ben Brown/Jason Dunstall run up, is coachable.
Cam McCarthys ridiculous swinging ball drop is going to cost us a final one day. Hes been in the team all year. Why havent the coaches sorted it out.
Pav correctly said a week or so ago, Ballas goes in too fast, he just needs to steady in those last two steps so he doesnt fall over. Ballas continues to do it wrong and you have to ask why has this not been sorted out by the coaches. Weve been watching it happen since before the 2013 GF. Its 2017 now. Pav can see it, we can see it, but the coaching panel cant coach it.
B Hill cant tackle. Sure hes small but he needs a better technique, going lower for the hips. Why hasnt this been coached. Its been obvious for 10 weeks.
Why does Subes keep falling on the ball and dragging it in. The rule has been in place for years and he been getting pinged for years. Thats coachable.
Theres an art to switching play, which I wont go into in this thread, needless to say we dont have any idea of when to do it, when not to do it and how to do it. Thats coaching.

Theres a hundred things we do wrong and 90% can be coached.

The most frustrating aspect today was all the free Swans players everywhere and once again all our defenders en masse just running from one contest to the next to the next, leaving their men so the Swans could just play Chinese Checkers.
Thats not really work rate. Sure the Swans out ran us sometimes but our effort is there. Its unintelligent work rate and effort.

Just when you think they might be getting coached properly it seems like they havent learned a thing in years. Whats confusing is that this coach has coached teams into GFs before. I just dont get why they look like they ve never been coached. I really dont know whats going on.
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guy smiley Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #26

guy smiley
That's the closest I've come to seeing the essence of Paul Roos captured in a post.

Yeti, the bar is reset.
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goodie Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #27

goodie
Great post rhufus.
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The_Yeti Work rate 6 years 8 months ago #28

The_Yeti
Ease up, Guy.

I don't think I can post that long
Egurls Suck!
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