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TOPIC: It's not netball

Raglan Matt It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #29

Raglan Matt
Frad, sticking your foot up head high is not a natural action when marking the ball. It is like D Martins elbow or fist to the head when fending off a tackle, against the laws of the game. Umpires let Martin get away with something that all other players in the comp are free kicked for and now it seems that Greene will be put in the same "too hard to deal with so we will ignore it" basket.
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itscraptacular It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #30

itscraptacular
Reckless
High contact
Bad record

equals 1-2 weeks.

BTW, netball is pretty rough at times ....
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Morgan It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #31

Morgan
Well, it seems like the MRP are going to upset 50% of fans on this one no matter what they do. It's almost as if they have a difficult job.

It's a grey area. I'd be inclined to let him off but take the opportunity to tweak the rules to clarify that if you ninja kick someone in the head during anything other than a mark, you'll probably cop a week or two. It's weird that our game isn't already clear on that, but there you go.
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shane It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #32

shane
I dont think it's grey. It wouldn't be a grey area if you used a forearm to fend someone off and it got them in the head. It's illegal high contact.

It might get grey if they want to push it into dangerous play but they won't if they can squeeze a couple of weeks out of the safer charge.
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Yossarian It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #33

Yossarian
Dollhouse had every right to run in and tackle the handball receiver without getting kicked in the face.
Completely different to a marking contest.

I once played fullback in a mixed netball match against a 4 foot 2 chubby little mother of 5, who booted about 27 on me in just the first quarter. She was mean, and nasty, and intimidating, and took me to the cleaners, while keeping an eye on her naughty little children, who were pretty much destroying the place, until she yelled out "Jayden, Hayden, Cayden and Louise, leave Brayden alone, in the most Armadalian accent you could ever hear, while calmly slotting another major over my pathetic defense through that stupid net.
I thought, yeah, this is a tough sport.
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Morgan It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #34

Morgan
Yeah, free kick for sure, but when has someone been suspended for a high fend?

How often does a player get a handball receive at such a height, and get enough elevation off the ground to get their boot at head level. It almost never happens. That combination of ball height, player exposure reaching for the ball and oncoming player momentum is almost always in a marking contest. So a player in Greene's position could be excused for reacting the same way as a marking situation - by doing what many players do and extending his leg.

Personally I reckon Greene knew what he was doing, but there's no way to know.
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shane It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #35

shane
You're reaching. It was high contact and it hurt the bloke. His intent only matters if you're trying to make more of it than that.

Lindsay Thomas got a week for a high fend off in the VFL a few weeks ago.
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purple kit It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #36

purple kit
While he may have intended to do it, the fact is he had eyes on the ball at the time of impact so charge should be:
Careless
High contact
Low impact
1 week, prior bad record, no early plea so 1 week stands
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goodie It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #37

goodie
He might not have been looking at him but Greene knew exactly where Dalhaus was and that's why he got him in the face. It was dirty and could have taken an eye out.
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Blue1red1 It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #38

Blue1red1
And we all know it's fun and games until someone has an eye out.....
Or you get out of your car to get directions and find out you are in Armadale??
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Raglan Matt It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #39

Raglan Matt
I recall Fyfe getting 2 weeks for kicking someone a year or 2 ago, and I don't think he kicked him in the head. Morgan, it's another one for the lawyers according to you and he needs to be warned to set a precedent. Set a bloody precedent by giving him 3 weeks, 2 for the kick and 1 because he has been up before the MRP twice already this year and is still dumb enough to kick an opponent in the head.
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Raglan Matt It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #40

Raglan Matt
He'll get off, Schmook has already loaded the "good bloke getting picked on" defense for the AwFL.

www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-14/analysis-...-the-mrp-to-consider
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Drubbing It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #41

Drubbing
It's only a 'grey area' in the sense the AFL haven't allowed for someone sticking their boot in someone's face while jumping for a ball. It'll be buried somewhere in some loose, rubbery interpretation of putting a player in danger.

Common sense should tell you it's dangerous, and in this case, was.

He's an idiot with form. Suspend him. How hard is that?
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shane It's not netball 6 years 7 months ago #42

shane
Fined

www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-14/match-rev...l-statement-round-21

Toby Greene, GWS Giants, has been charged with engaging in misconduct against Luke Dahlhaus, Western Bulldogs, during the third quarter of the Round 21 match between the GWS Giants and the Western Bulldogs, played at Etihad Stadium on Friday August 11, 2017.

In summary he can accept a $1500 sanction with an early plea.

An offence for misconduct is classified as a $2500 sanction. An early plea enables the player to accept a $1500 sanction.
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