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larkin Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #15

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Hypen sometime not long ago Roly make a comment about 'not crossing the line' and it make me think of what Silvagni did - ie whacking someone and it earned him a lengthy spell out of the game.
Football is brutal enough without needless violence.
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Jezza Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #16

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Speaking of gameplans. If you watched the Eagles game yesterday and I've been saying this all along, we're not the only ones who bombs the ball into the forward line and hopes that one of ours clungs it. Even when they're out numbered. Even the crows do it monotonously. Except they have plenty of fire power in their forward line. In the last 3 weeks and we could have won all 3, our skill errors and intent for 120mins was what let us down, not the gameplan.
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The_Yeti Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #17

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I never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go in order to convince themselves that everybody else who doesn't agree with them is wrong.

If the game plan leads to repeated failures, then problem is the game plan.

Just because other sides can 'bomb it into the forward line' and win doesn't make it a successful or credible game plan. If you do it and it fails repeatedly, then its not its not a winning process.

Jezza, you are only seeing what you want to see because the alternative is accepting the coach isn't always right and has limitations. Adelaide do 'bomb it in' at times they also more commont look for marking targets like Walker and Betts.

We looked for marking targets in the first half yesterday and won that. We stopped looking for forward targets in the second half and lost that.

The Western Bulldogs spent the first half 'bombing it in' against Adelaide on Saturday night and despite holding almost complete dominance in the second quarter watched the ball repeatedly coming out of their forward 50 for almost no return.

Sure, we can pretend that Roly is a little tin god on wheels and keep bombing it in because we have little or no forward structure and we watch all those lovely McGovern intercept marks just like last time. That or we can learn from our past failures and actually look for a player on a lead and stop giving the ball away.

Personally, I'm all about learning from and not repeating past mistakes rather than twisting myself into pretzels trying to avoid blaming the coach
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Docker by the Sea Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #18

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Seems to me a lot of the arguments about the coach seem to be unravelling. I have given up on watching much AFL anymore as I find the game play monotonous and slightly tedious. I do continue to routinely watch The Dockers as they are my team of choice. When I do watch other teams I don't see these extravagant game plans that everybody talks about, I see winning teams execute skills and apply extreme and consistent pressure. Losing teams turn the ball over and have inconsistency in effort.
These are what the coach would be asking for and what players either deliver or don't.
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Jezza Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #19

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Well it should be a good Derby then this weekend with both coaches having shite game plans hoping that the long bombs hit a marking forward. I guess we're looking at another loss.
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The_Yeti Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #20

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We will have another loss if we keep kicking it to McGovern rather than to our forwards....just like last time
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Morgan Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #21

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There’s more than a hint of irony in yeti using his 6717th post of the season about Lyon to express his amazement at the lengths people go in order to convince themselves that everybody else is wrong.
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hypen Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #22

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Larkin, I agree his hit on Cripps ? was dreadful but I felt like he had a line through Silvagni prior to that.
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The_Yeti Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #23

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So then, Morgan, you'd be disagreeing with my about not having a forward structure and continuing to bomb it to watch intercept marks coming back out again...or is that just being contrary again
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guy smiley Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #24

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You ahhh... going to some lengths to convince Morgan you're right again then?
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Corporal Agarn Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #25

Corporal Agarn
It's always hard to convince Morgan of anything.
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The_Yeti Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #26

The_Yeti
No I asked a simple question, Guy.

Morgan either agrees that bombing the ball into a an unstructured forward line that has repeatedly failed is either a good idea or it isn't.

I've said that it isn't and backed that up.

If you or Morgan don't agree with me, then it's not that hard to say that....or maybe it is.

If McGovern gets another 8 or 9 intercept marks again, I'd like somebody to explain to me why thats a good idea but I guess making smartass remarks is much easier.
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guy smiley Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #27

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Your idea of a simple question uses up half my daily bandwidth, Yeti.
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Rat Only one solution.... 6 years 10 months ago #28

Rat
To kick the ball directly to a team mate in the forward line sounds like a good idea to me .
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