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Morgan Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #15

Morgan
The safest Skyshow was in 2010 when there was a 'zero tolerance' approach, and only half the usual people turned up. The Police Commissioner hailed it as a success.

Since then they've taken a more sensible approach, including alcohol free zones. It's been pretty successful.

In a 60,000 seat stadium you can cater for everyone.

The Government / Police should just let the Stadium sell full strength booze, at least in parts, but take a hard line against them for selling beer to people who are clearly drunk, or against fans being drunken idiots.
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Walter the baker Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #16

Walter the baker
"First world problem" comes to mind. We must be living in a golden era when we see this level of angst about mid strength beer. Clearly getting a hit of alcohol at the footy is way too important for some. I'm surprised that we aren't still hearing an outcry about smoking bans at the games.
Try to remember that there are lots of folk out there who prefer to enjoy a game of footy without having to deal with topped up punters before, during or after a game.
Ask the security staff what they think about this decision - I think you will find that they may be supporting McWowser on this one.
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KingKepler Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #17

KingKepler
With speed limits......if you cross the line you run the risk of being caught and punished for it. I would expect someone drinking to excess at the footy to also be penalised. The difference is enforcing a rule to cater for the idiots instead of the vast majority that do not cross the line
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shane Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #18

shane
So you actually do want people breathalysed at the football.
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KingKepler Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #19

KingKepler
And saliva swabs for WC games
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rogerrocks Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #20

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Yes Morgan, but the best Skyshow was the 2nd one. The one where they assumed 30k people, and 250k people turned up. It was fantastic. Cars parked everywhere, girls queued up at the mens toilets. No booze limits. No cops. It was awesome. But that is the sort of magic you only get by luck. As the Skyshows rolled on the yobbos moved in and ruined it. Then the wowsers over reacted and ruined it further. Not worth going now. My only hope is that one year they do the sensible thing and just do the crescendo - letting off all the fireworks in 30 seconds.

But is there any reason our stadium can't be like Docklands where you can buy a variety of real beers? Or are Melburnians innately better behaved than us? Could it be that footy supporters in Melbourne are used to full strength beer and tailor their drinking accordingly? And that we could learn to do the same...
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Drubbing Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #21

Drubbing
There's clearly something wrong with whatever govt we have in this state, where we have to do something different to every other stadium in the land.

This isn't an argument about drink driving and speed limits. It's about acknowledging most grown ups are just that. Some aren't. They will get round any watered down drinks scenario in order to get tanked. The simpleton's argument is to penalise everyone, to reign in the muppets. It doesn't work. But it makes you look tough in pollieland, which is what's really important for pollies.

I've been going to footy for 25 years. They're still by far the best behaved crowds anywhere I've been, and I've been to Man U games in London, where people are caged off from each other. And it's still scary as buggery, and not much to do with too much drink being on sale. It's been banned for decades. it's gangs and pre-loaders.
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KingKepler Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #22

KingKepler
Is there any evidence from around the world that sports stadiums selling full strength beverages correlates with worse crowd behaviour?

Or is this just a Perth thing?
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shane Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #23

shane
Yeah, every politician knows that messing with people's beer is a vote winner.
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Flag_2005 Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #24

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Vote 1 Drubbing.
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KingKepler Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #25

KingKepler
I saw Barnett drunk* at the footy in a corporate box after we beat Sydney in a preliminary final......maybe this is what it is all about???!!!

*edit: appeared to be mildly inebriated
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guy smiley Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #26

guy smiley
Yeah... nah.

It's not a Perth thing. It's a Perth footy thing. I've been to test match rugby in Subi and had an awesome night out with pint swilling maniacs from all over the place and not seen a spot of bother. Footy crowds in Perth... generally... aren't a good advertisement for full strength beer.

It won't get better if you let them try it, sorry. Put it down to isolation factors if you want but a day out at the footy is a big deal in this town because there's not really that much else to do so people are going to treat it like a day out and drink accordingly. Other cities get out and get messy but Perth likes to get sunburnt to hell while it's getting messy, then go somewhere to get on it.

They should sell it warm.
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jcalb Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #27

jcalb
Can you imagine the outrage in the 70s when this was enforced? Limited to one slab per person.

It was no different at the cricket. In the 1974/75 Ashes series, a single Test match at the SCG produced 460,000 empty beer cans over five days. Since then, society has become more regulated and risk-averse, as have our cricket grounds. In the 1970s, patrons were subject to a limit of one slab per person that could be brought in. Then followed the ‘two-can limit’ in the early Eighties. By the late Eighties it was illegal to bring in any beer
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Wharfie Time Premier McWowser 6 years 11 months ago #28

Wharfie Time
For people trying to prove they are grown up enough to be trusted with full strength beer there is a lot of dummy spitting and throwing the toys out of the pram going on here.

Drunk people at the footy scare me. I think one of the reasons people are usually reasonably behaved at our matches is that the crowd is pretty much barracking for the same team. But I've seen the occasional ugly situation when drunkenness, disappointment and high emotion collide, when people are baited by supporters of the other team and it turns nasty. I HATE it when kids see and hear that. And I'm sure the drunks didn't wake up that morning thinking I'm going to make everyone near me at the footy today have a horrible time - but then they do.

I think full strength beer would make this situation occur more frequently.
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