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TOPIC: Monday Morning Read

Awake Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #1

Awake
It's a quiet morning so I headed over to:
www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/24/it...ponsibility-epiphany
and I quote a smidgeon:
"According to the Australian Medical Association, up to five million Australians feel the health, social and financial impacts of problem gambling, including friends, families and employers of people with a gambling problem.
Yet despite this, it took just two weeks of “intense lobbying” from the AFL to dilute the federal government’s plans to ban gambling ads during live sports telecasts. For an organisation that doesn’t pay tax, that’s some sort of lobbying muscle".
Good article.
I reckon it's time for AFL to show that it is not always about the money. It's time for them to go. Problem is that they might be replaced by boring, blokey, beer ads.
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Davo Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #2

Davo
I hope not - that is vice discrimination.
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shane Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #3

shane
The difference is, you don't get a representative from a brewery, posing as a presenter before the game directing you that now would be a great time to drink a beer.

They don't need to ban the ads, just make them tone it down like the alcohol industry have to.
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rogerrocks Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #4

rogerrocks
The bit I hate is that they try to make watching the footy while simultaneously scanning the odds and placing bets on your phone look like normal behaviour.
It isn't. If you find yourself looking away from the game to your phone to see what the current odds are, chances are you have a gambling problem.
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Blue1red1 Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #5

Blue1red1
I for one would like it if the odds company provided our cheer squad with those blower machines. Imagine a couple hundred of those toys going full throttle from behind the goals as the opposition kicked ball comes floating in. Great fun to be had. We could also pluck off the Eagle as it starts it's days posing off flight. With practise we could get the squad to hit the umps whistle every time Son Son is whacked high.
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point less Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #6

point less
Oh, and I thought it was an ad for leaf blowers.
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darthmarto Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #7

darthmarto
What if I watch the footy while surfing my phone for Dockerland updates?

Normal behaviour?
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Helenv Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #8

Helenv
As a personal protest about the insidious promotion of gambling in football, I have elected not to have the betting odds appear on the footy tipping website. But the page is still covered in gambling ads, telling me how much I could win if I placed a bet. The AFL has proved it can't self-regulate and it is time for the government to impose some limits. This normalisation of betting is a huge and growing burden on the community.
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Davo Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #9

Davo
I agree - and while we're at it, whatever happened to Dockerland Punting?
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Morgan Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #10

Morgan
I reckon they need to rein it in a little. Rugby league is the worst for it, but sometimes sport resembles an infomercial for betting, which is not ideal.

I enjoy a bet on the footy. I put $50 in an account about 10 years ago and I'm still playing with house money. To me it is normal, and I don't automatically subscribe to the view that betting on sport is a bad thing.

The corrosive effects of problem gambling are well-known, but I'd be interested to know what percentage of problem gambling losses are on footy / sports. I tend to assume that most problem gamblers blow their stack at the track, casino and pokies, but perhaps that's outdated thInking. Still, if you're going to outlaw advertising a product many people enjoy, I think you need some evidence of its soocial harm, and not cluster it into a broader problem or use a gateway drug analogy without support.

After all, if you were worried about a gateway to gambling wouldn't you ban kids from footy tipping?
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mule Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #11

mule
This is not advertising, it is carpet bombing.
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guy smiley Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #12

guy smiley
I don't bet... apart from the odd Melbourne Cup ritualistic harikari at the TAB.

I hate the advertising. I've got zero tolerance for it. Research and hard evidence show us the negative effects of gambling. Society is tolerant of it due to normalisation... saturation level advertising and the afore mentioned normalisation tactics in that advertising are only making it worse.

It should go. It's condoning a social disease.
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mule Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #13

mule
We know the impact this sort of thing has through junk food advertising. Try resisting this wave as a teenager. It's wrong and the full impact is yet to come.
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Morgan Monday Morning Read 7 years 1 week ago #14

Morgan
I don't want to come off like a libertarian, but how many AFL 'corporate partners' products do you think are a social good? I don't want my son eating McDonalds, drinking coke (or Carlton Draft) thinking banks are his friend or that a Toyota Camry is an acceptable choice of vehicle, any more than I think he should open up a Sportsbet account. Which is why as a parent I'll hope to hell he ends up with enough
common sense not to be hoodwinked into such things.

And while Eagle Vision is still on TV, I don't think we should be distracted by relatively trifling socials ills such as gambling.
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