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TOPIC: Current Situation

PurpleHornet Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #15

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Corporal, is the Lt.Col. your commanding officer?
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OGS Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #16

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100% correct with barlow
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The_Yeti Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #17

The_Yeti
Noddy, we do have WAFL quality players and under Roly they are permanent fixtures.

I may not be a million dollar a year coach but keeping the youngsters out while playing guys like Suban, Pearce, Sutcliffe and Dawson while denying development time to their replacements seems to be an odd way to rebuild. Great way to stagnate though.

Even with 4 new players and Fyfe and Sandi back in, we look like we did last year and the second half of the season before that. Slow, uncertain and poorly skilled.

Our skills look poor, not because we are learning new game plan but because they are actually poor. Thats not a great advertisement for a million bucks a year.

Roly can no longer go with Paul Roos gameplan. The AFL changed the rules to stop that. Roly needs to change and coach scoring or he needs to acknowledge the game has gone past him and go into the commentary box.
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Corporal Agarn Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #18

Corporal Agarn
PH, Lt. Colonel I haven't seen a round here before, but there is also a Colonel. I don't answer to anyone thank you very much.........................excuse though, must go, my wife is calling.
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Morgan Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #19

Morgan
I reckon you're entitled to try and pick your best team to win games until at least round 2 before you waive the white flag and play the kids.

Anything else would lack ambition.
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FDB Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #20

FDB
"Waive"?

I thought you were a law talking guy.
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Docker by the Sea Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #21

Docker by the Sea
That is true Morgan, but do you really believe Suban is in the best 22 of what was available?
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Morgan Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #22

Morgan
I'm a law talking guy who has a 4 week old baby at home who has decided he's nocturnal. It seems mastery of homophones is the first (but I predict not the last) thing to go in my sleep-deprived brain.

I was surprised Suban was picked in round 1, but if there was one thing we were lacking on Sunday it was blokes who could hit a target. Suban is usually ok on that front. I also like that he sets an intensity standard.

But yeah, if we're no good he's the first to go - which seems consistent with his likely exclusion closer to game day this week.
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The_Yeti Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #23

The_Yeti
Morgan,

We are having a rebuild.that means getting games into upping players so they come good later. Not hanging onto to players like Suban, Dawson or Sutcliffe.

You can play them another hundred games and they'll still be below standard. As for any of them being top 22, maybe in hit parade of also rans.

But every year I see the same threads about our poor skills and static game plan and every year I see the justifications but every year I see no improvement. The game has passed us by using a defence only game plan and slow ball movement.

You can put as much lipstick as you like onto a pig but at the end of the day, it's still going to be a pig.

So I flat out disagree with you. In a rebuild, you put games into that kids as a priority ad use the old stagers onlywhen you have no other choice
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Morgan Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #24

Morgan
I think there is a fine line between being a good and bad team. We saw it with West Coast who went from a (tanking) wooden spoon to challenging for a flag in consecutive seasons. Statistically speaking, most years a team jumps from the bottom 8 (now 10) into the top 4. We've added the best tap ruckman in the game and a Brownlow Medallist to the midfield. We added some outside run in Hill (with hopefully more to come in Bennell), and a couple of guys to kick to in McCarthy and (less helpfully) Kersten.

Now, I don't think we're going to win the flag, but as a coach you don't start a pre-season telling the players that this season the team is going to suck and we're not going to pick the best possible team. That would be completely demoralising to every player on the list - especially those over 24.

You go out in round one like you're a chance to win the flag. When it's apparent you're not, you reassess. I don't think a player's development is going to be hindered by playing 18 games instead of 22. Most young guys struggle to play out an entire season in any event.

It's round two for Clive's sake. I'd hold fire on the lack of games for the kids until at least April.
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thegeniusthatis Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #25

thegeniusthatis
Nah, I did mean that.
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The_Yeti Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #26

The_Yeti
Just no.

Roly has flagged a rebuild.

Starting point here is who had something to offer for future.

Suban? No
Sutcliffe? No
Dawson? Hell no
Pearce? No
Balic? Maybe
Tucker? Maybe
Hughes? Maybe
Blakely? Maybe
Taberner? Probably

So the obvious plan is to keep playing all those with a no against their name, right? Well maybe if you're Roly
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The_Yeti Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #27

The_Yeti
Also, Morgan, you mentioned the slime.

They got a coach who teaches scoring and we haven't beaten them since from memory. They actually look a while lot better than we do and they play crabs like Masten
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Morgan Current Situation 7 years 1 month ago #28

Morgan
All the maybes/probables you listed have been named in the squad, except for Balic who missed all of last season with an injury. I think it's fair enough to ask him to string a couple of games together before a call up to the bigs.

Tabs is only a year younger than Sutcliffe and Kersten, so I'm not sure you can call the youth card on that one.

As well as jumping the gun, I reckon you're overstating Lyon's reluctance to blood talent this season.
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