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Morgan Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #29

Morgan
From the excerpts published, it's a comprehensive report from a respectable investigator based almost entirely on hearsay. No way the AFL could have published that.
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The_Yeti Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #30

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You can read the actual report, Morgan and it appears to me to be mostly based on interviews by the investigator. From the bits I can cross check it appears to be solidly factual and the conclusions drawn are far from unreasonable.

Shane,

Is it time to resurrect "Delist the Eagles Day". I can see a public interest argument getting up.
Egurls Suck!
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Noddy Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #31

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The steam from the Toilet bog of sullied GF history and false glory will swirl around the ones who know what really happened for years.
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purplepower Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #32

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Are the Dockers playing on the weekend???
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R.Lyon Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #33

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You can add the lot of them to that list. It was known by everyone in Perth who used enjoy the nightlife at that time. Remember when Aker claimed Braun "was running like superman ". Takes a lot for a player to come out and name another player as a cheat to the media even for Aker. Braun then denied it, says he hates the word cheat and anyone who cheats to win medals or gain an upper hand is weak in character. Aker then has to apologise probably for braking the code
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Drubbing Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #34

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Lots of facts and witness statements in there too, Morgan.

But don't let that get in the way of your staunch contrarianism.

Do you really need a smoking pipe too? If so, WC have a list of blokes you could call.
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Morgan Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #35

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The report was mostly a summary of already known incidents, and a summary of people's recollection of events. The conclusion of the report was that West Coast didn't do enough given the rumours circling the club, but that they had improved their governance somewhat after that.

By commissioning the report, the AFL was trying to find out what the hell West Coast was doing about this from 2007. I'm not sure how forthcoming people were, but you certainly don't get the most honest answers when you tell people you are going to publish the report in the paper.

Seriously, what was the most revelatory part of the report for you? What amazing piece of information are you now in possession of than you weren't before you spent 30 mins reading the report? For me it was that Beau Waters ate a live goldfish (did I just forget that?), and that there are only 4 places to get a bite to eat in Perth.

I don't think it's being a contrarian to consider that there is merit in keeping a confidential reports confidential, and that it's basically gutter journalism to rehash this now when it doesn't really contribute any new information. Just because it's about the Eagles and quite salacious doesn't change my views on those things.
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pollyanna Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #36

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It was pretty damning on Nissie and formed an opinion that Judd's attitude towards the conduct of players off the field was 'out of date and unhelpful' to changing the culture at the club. That's something 'new' (at least). But on the whole, I thought the report was long winded, tautological and (in the end) soft. Very soft - they should have lost their license, full stop.

But you can't access the appendices and two names were redacted on what you could read - my perspective might have changed if they were included.
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R.Lyon Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #37

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There's no new information but I guess it confirms everything that was going on because I know quite a few people that just thought a lot were rumors or were in denial
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Noddy Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #38

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The report was the view of a well qualified and respected person. It has more substance than any other information known at the time. Certain people at Toilet central may not have survived if the report had been published, and as others have said it would have put the AFL reputation in a precarious state.
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R34 Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #39

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Purplepower
The Dockers are playing on Monday (or close enough to it not to matter)
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shane Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #40

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Well done to Mark Duffield on getting in all of the Nisbett provided talking points
- the drugs weren't performance enhancing
- it was the AFL and their drug policy that was at fault
- everybody else was doing it any way (bonus points for mentioning Dale Lewis)
- Nisbett and his team were the ones who fixed the culture so he should be absolved of any wrong doing.

There's a headline a couple of pages earlier in the same paper "Bikie cared for vest, not victim". You could run something similar about this Eagles mob and all their flunkies.
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R.Lyon Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #41

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Anyone who thinks it's not performance enhancing is kidding themselves. You seen the energy people have on meth? The choice of drug for world war ll. Strip all their trophies I say
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thegeniusthatis Same old, same old. 7 years 1 month ago #42

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"Nil all" sounds so much better than the way their numpty fans try to frame it.
The first two don't count as we weren't even in the competition, and that one in 2006 required an 87 page legal inquiry.
How many other grand finalists have had that?
Cheating bastards.
Useless cheating bastards.
Gutless, useless cheating bastards.
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