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TOPIC: Hooker Stays

Docker 26 Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #29

Docker 26
He played the perfect game of getting what he wanted out of Essendon. Forced Essendon into a 5 year deal when they offered him 4 to start with. Well done Cale.

FFS Bondy!
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Raglan Matt Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #30

Raglan Matt
Melbourne Storm in the NRL were seen as a destination club for many years, they attracted players from everywhere, retained players who could have been on big money elsewhere and won GF's. Then someone took a very close interest in how this could be so. Didn't end well for the Storm, and maybe some of these "destination clubs" in the AwFL would be worried if someone other than the AwFL was to investigate them. After all the AwFL originally were quite happy with the way Essendons supplements program was going.
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purplepower Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #31

purplepower
We only take risks on midfielders
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Docker by the Sea Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #32

Docker by the Sea
Whether you call them destination clubs or something else. I thought it was one of the eastern states clubs that coined the phrase. Footballers play footy for the fun as well as the money, playing sport is more fun when you are winning. Melbourne players have commented on this recently. I have also travelled in my share of planes after the first plane ride it wasn't much fun after that.
When it comes down to the difference between $800 000 and $1 000 000, I would choose winning and avoiding flying. My wisdom is marginal though as I thought Hooker was an easy get. I also assumed that we would once again be strong contenders for top 4 and be able to offer the winning bit. Did not see this cliff coming.
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shane Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #33

shane
Hawthorn fly 8 times this season.
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Docker by the Sea Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #34

Docker by the Sea
3 to tas 1 1/4 hrs, 2 to Syd 1 hr 25, 1 to Brisabne bit over 2 hrs.
Little different to Western Australian teams that take in Quensland, Northern Territory, NSW, Tasmania.
Not complaining we joined a national competition, just arguing that myself as an individual would choose one over the other. I believe most well paid people with choices would do likewise.
We need to learn to deal with this when trying to secure players, in the same way that we have to had to learn to play well with this travel schedule. To pretend it doesn't exist is to place our heads in the sand.
Having said that it would appear to me that some teams are doing better out of free agency than others, and if the AFL wants an equalised competition may need to look at this into the future.
Similar to the development of academies for our clubs going forward.
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shane Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #35

shane
So, in your scenario, you'd take something like two million dollars less, over a career, for shorter flights.
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Docker by the Sea Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #36

Docker by the Sea
Players regularly take less, Pavlich has done it on a couple of occasions. Admittedly for different reasons to this and many Geelong players took less during their premiership years.
Me personally have taken probably 50g a year less to avoid planes over the last ten years.
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shane Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #37

shane
So you get the player in a room with the still playing 34 year old Pavlich, with his 6 All Australian jumpers hanging on the wall, and you get him to tell said player that flying isn't a big deal. Then you give him a sack of money and an F7 cap.
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rogerrocks Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #38

rogerrocks
Can we do World Series Footy? WC, Freo, Adelaide, Port, Sydney, GWS, GC and Brissie. Make our own national comp. Then tell the Vics that 4 of their sides are free to join. Gives a 22 round season with everyone playing everyone twice. And because we aren't the AFL, we don't have to play the GF at the MCG.

Then run it properly, with better travel arrangements etc.
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DockerKnockers Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #39

DockerKnockers
Once again, I'll buck the trend. I think we dodged another bullet here. Prior to Hooker being a possible Freo recruit, my only memory of him was him chasing Buddy for 50m down the wing only to see Buddy kick goal of the year in 2010. Run Hooker Run

Reports suggest Freo were offering around $1million per year for 5 years. That would put Hooker, a player who barely makes the top50 AFL players (as voted by his peers), in the top 5 or so highest paid players in the competition (about the same or more than Fyfe).
And what would that $5million plus give Freo? ... a KPP unlikely to give 100 Home and Away games.
He will be about 28 and a half years old if he plays Round 1 2017. To give you some idea of what that age means. McPharlin played 92 Home and Away games after that age before retiring. Dawson has played 15 and Johnson has played 56.
I don't even know if we would be getting him as a defender or a forward.
His forward stats are nothing special (he simply played deep in the forward zone ... with few i50s and only 1 Goal Assist during his 10 or so games in 2015 playing forward. He kicked 20goals 19points). His best defensive stats are good, but I would select other Key Defenders in front of him.

Once again, you can attempt to understand the details ... or just take the general simpler more popular approach and blame Bondy.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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dddocker Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #40

dddocker
You also have to fly interstate if you break your leg or do a hammy and damage a ligament to get the bloody things fixed!
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DockerKnockers Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #41

DockerKnockers
I have a cunning plan ... get Bondy to recruit those surgeons to WA.
One interview room, Bondy, the game Operation on desk with new batteries ... all sorted.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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shane Hooker Stays 7 years 11 months ago #42

shane
That makes for a good story, DockerKnockers except Bond didn't withdraw from the contest, he lost it.

Fremantle worked so hard at trying to get Hooker that he felt the need to ring and apologise.
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