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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #43

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Everything I hear and see coming out of the club is that Lyon has incredible buy in and commitment from all players, no odd noises or dummy spits at all, none. Some players go off the rails no matter what care and cotton wool you put around them. Our game plan required discipline and commitment from all and Lyon has that. Zac Clarke would be the only one that went MIA.

Just mentioned on the AFL Trade Radio by one of The Suns brains trust (Scot Clayton footy Manager). There is an unnamed (read nobody but were desperate) other club interested in Bennell than Freo. Mentioned that there was good flexibility with future draft picks on the table (hint Freo you listening)
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Mushroom Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #44

Mushroom
Harley Bennell's challenges both include and require more than just Ross Lyon.
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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #45

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Mushroom, If its at that threshold point maybe it cant found in a AFL club (a youth development club like the Suns or Freo) and is more of an external institution?
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shane Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #46

shane
Crowley is a convicted drug cheat, who will probably be delisted, Pearce still has a fat arse and I'm still not sure what was wrong with Walters that required banishment but he's never played a bad game.

Colin Sylvia got worse during his time at Fremantle and Josh Simpson was banished because he was too excitable.

So Bennell had better arrive thin and on time.
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darthmarto Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #47

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And not 'excited'.
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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #48

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For what its worth The Slime rule themselves out of Bennell consideration.
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Mike Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #49

Mike
The fact that so many clubs are publicly stating that they have no interest in Harley Bennell has me worried... that there must be a lot of insane people running AFL clubs. He is as good a player as there is in the sport. In addition, he is 23! He has at least 200 games in him for whichever club is lucky enough to land him.

Hopefully that will be us!
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jimb2 Harley Bennell 8 years 7 months ago #50

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You won't know until you've tried it. It's a big ask of Benell but he might be ready for it. He won't be the first person to make this kind of transition successfully. It has plenty of upside if we get him for like a second round pick. I would expect that the club goes into it with their eyes open, does everything required, and does a proper evaluation of processes, win, lose or draw.

If we want to be a successful club, we need to have the capability of assessing this correctly, and pulling it off.
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markh295 Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #51

markh295
Bond
Get the Deal done as soon as trade opens with our 1st round pick before some else comes in.
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Ricco Harley Bennell 8 years 7 months ago #52

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Bennell would have to be one of the best talents running around the AFL. I'd rather take a risk on him than on 1, 2 or 3 17 year olds regardless of their position in the draft.
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Morgan Harley Bennell 8 years 7 months ago #53

Morgan
I think clubs know there are limits to what they can do to help players.

Having secured the last three premierships, it's probably fair to say the Hawks know a thing or two about running a footy club, and maximising the talents of their players. They took a chance of Dayle Garlett and couldn't make it work.

Clubs should be asking:
  1. do they have the people and infrastructure to help a bloke like Bennell get the most out of his talent to help the team;
  2. could getting Bennell negatively affect the footy club (in terms of what they give up, allocation of resources, media focus etc); and
  3. what is best for Bennell?
Realistically, most people will be thinking about their own jobs. Taking a risk on a wayward talent has plenty of risk. Much more risk than passing on 'character grounds'. I think Bondy has played things as conservatively as he can, and probably knows he needs to roll the dice.
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shane Harley Bennell 8 years 7 months ago #54

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When they write they post career books, I reckon you'll find that one of the secrets of Hawthorn's success has been player management and their ability to keep their talent on the field.

Taking a risk on wayward talent in a normal job is not the same as exploiting football talent. Football talent is a rare commodity and the market for it is competitive.

If you can keep the human failings in check then people with talent will play good football. The current system seems to involve drafting perfectly adjusted humans and then trying to teach them to play football. Risk management instead of player management.
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Flag_2005 Harley Bennell 8 years 7 months ago #55

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There's a good chance that the reason clubs are coming out and saying they're not going to try and to a deal to recruit Harley to their club is because they (and Gold Coast) have been told Harley is only interested in coming to Freo.
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Drubbing Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #56

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I don't know Bennell, but he's been in the game long enough to know if he comes to Freo, Lyon won't take any crap, and will get bounced if he doesn't meet expectations. Lyon only has a few faves, and fat party boys don't get games.
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