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TOPIC: Harley bennell

Silence Re:Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #29

Silence
I would of expected the footy show to have wrapped up by 2005
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Drubbing Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #30

Drubbing
We never get what we expect.
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Docker 26 Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #31

Docker 26
We must be close, they are trying to scare us of him. The Vics want him if they are trying to find more dirt.
Everyone scrambling to say they were the ones who transformed Harley. They love those feel good stories.
He must be a shoe in for the Bombers now that the king of transforming men has arrived.
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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #32

DaPav
I hope Bondy was spotting the bar tab.
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Mushroom Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #33

Mushroom
Freo could well do with his footballness. In fact, they need it.

However, I question whether our club culture and consistent cognitive dissonance (there's an oxymoron for you) provide an appropriate environment for the non-footballness in Harley's life that will then provide the opportunity for his footballness to shine.

I just don't think we got it and Lyon's default position is to avoid it (or, more correctly, shift the responsibility) rather than take the more difficult path.

Note: Michael Walters is an extra extraordinary case built on will and self determination.
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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #34

DaPav
Mushroom, The cognitive dissonance is what we get to see, I am sure there would be a different stream of communication going on behind the scenes.

According to reports Freo have still not to put a deal to Bennell's management. In that Herald Sun article we are checking into his background, any skeletons in the closet? Does that mean hair and blood tests?
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myboys Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #35

myboys
Clancee was ordered to get his @ss into gear too remember, literally.
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Morgan Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #36

Morgan
So, to my eye, there are a few competing tensions in trying to get Bennell:

i. We need him, so we should do ‘whatever it takes’;
ii. It’s a shallow market for Bennell, so we should pay as little as possible;
iii. GC won’t take a low-ball offer at the start of trade season, as they will want to hold off for a better offer (of which we hope there are none);
iv. By taking our time gives other clubs the chance to swoop (eg, like Clark a few years back);
v. We need to ‘do whatever it takes’ to sign a KPP, with a focus on McCarthy, and need to keep assets to ship off to GWS;
vi. There is a minimum number of players we must draft (apparently);
vii. Our list is a strange mix of excellent veterans with little value, and a few talented kids we don’t want to give up; and
viii. There is a transformative KPP who is a Freo fan playing for a crap club in Melbourne who might want to come home in a couple of years, and for whom we would have to trade.

Bond is a duffer, but let’s not kids ourselves that trading is like walking into a shop with the Freo credit card (that’s free agency). Trading is hard, and where there are so many factors outside of Freo’s control, we shouldn’t consider any outcome a certainty.

A couple of weeks ago I stuck up for the umpires and they made me look foolish. Bond, please, for the love of Clive, please don’t let us down.
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Flag_2005 Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #37

Flag_2005
Da Pav is on the money. What Lyon presents to the public is very different to what goes on behind closed doors.
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shane Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #38

shane
Neither work very well.
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terminator Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #39

terminator
Question has to be asked, why are we the only ones interested (allegedly)???

We were the only ones interested in Sylvia and Gumbledon too and look where that got us!
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DaPav Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #40

DaPav
There is a risk with it no doubt. Upside is he's a no 2 pick from the 2010 draft and I think he plays and can be as good as Stephen Hill.

Stephen Hill
Height 183 cm DOB 01-05-1990 Weight 82 kg

Harley Bennell
Height 185 cm DOB 02-10-1992 Weight 81 kg
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Raglan Matt Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #41

Raglan Matt
He is a better risk than Gumbleton, Sylvia and Anthony, so he will not be our worst ever trade if we get him, no matter what happens, and he has the potential to do a Walters, or Pearce, or Crowley, and turn his career around. About time we did the Jack Darlings on the rest of the comp, so let Vicmedia central keep spouting their wisdom.
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Mushroom Harley bennell 8 years 7 months ago #42

Mushroom
I'm not questioning his football ability, nor the footballing fit he could have in the Fremantle side, nor even the ability of bond to get him to Fremantle.

What I am questioning is the ability of Fremantle to build the environment, enact the support network, implement the required buffering capacity, and perhaps even the quality of the cotton wool to occasionally wrap him in in order to deal with the obvious (and not-so obvious) baggage he is struggling to carry and the as-yet unforseen baggage that he may be required to carry in the future.

I also think it would be tragic to resign somebody with tremendous footballing flare to being lyonised into a disciplined run-back defender who scrambles it forward inside 50 enough times so that, statistically, you win more games than you lose. I hope this does not happen, but it very well could.

I still wish to see him in chevrons next year, but I have fears on more than just the Bondacity issue.
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