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The_Yeti Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #15

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I have to sometimes question whether you actually watch the games, Morgan or whether you just like making contrary statements but either way, your comments are generally inaccurate.

Fyfe should have the been the recipient of a number of free kicks not the other way around. Go and watch the number of times he is held off the ball by opposition players and tell me the way he plays gives away free kicks. We watched him in the last derby constantly being held off the ball by either one or two players in full view of Dalgliesh with not a word spoken. The only time he tried to push a player off who was holding him, Dalgliesh immediately called holding the man against him.

Campbell's comments are a solid pointer to all that is wrong with the way the AFL manages the game. When queried as to why the constant inequities in umpiring exist, Campbell's comments say that its normal for that to occur but he doesn't know why. Its his job to know why and to correct the situation. Campbell is either hopelessly incompetent or hopelessly corrupt and considering the huge leg up his old team now gets from the umpires, Occams Razor suggests corrupt.

He overseas a situation where his 'team' is now the recipient of more free kicks than any other club, where umpires with personal links to clubs are over-represented in officiating those club's games (Margetts, Dalgliesh), where only nominated incident gets put to the MRP and former team mates are permitted to make decisions irrespective of conflicts of interest (same applies to the tribunal). I could go on but it would be more of the same.

The AFL is an organisation that rivals FIFA in its lack of integrity.

Suggesting its Fyfe's fault that we are constantly not being paid frees that other sides see as routine is the height of absurdity.The AFL should be put into the spotlight for its obvious inconsistencies and clowns like Campbell should be held responsible, not given free pass to hide corruption as business as usual
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DockerKnockers Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #16

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Thanks Morgan for link mistake heads up, corrected now.

And Yep, the Heeney one was a shocker, but in my opinion it should have been play on. They showed that one on Whistleblowers and I watched it quite a few times. Heeney slipped. It wasn't the typical taking the legs and I couldn't really see much high contact to Sheridan. When the whistle went I was sure it was going to be a Sydney Free and was surprised we got that. Then Sandilands also got one and I thought maybe Freo are going to get a fair go today. WRONG! Sydney then got 10 frees and Freo 1 in the next 30 odd minutes of football.
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Morgan Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #17

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I thought there were bad decisions either way, mostly to Sydney. I just thought it was interesting and relevant that of the 35 free kicks paid on the day, 16 free kicks (nearly half) involved either Fyfe or Tippett. I've outlined my reasons why I don't think Fyfe will ever have the same free kick differential as Cotchin before, there's no point repeating it, and I thought Tippett was a dominant player on the ground, and forced us into free kicks against him.

As for home town calls, it's a phenomenon in every league in the world. That Campbell doesn't have a fix for it isn't a sign of corruption. Psychologically, if a crowd roars, it's going to draw attention to a possible infringement. The only way to counter that is to instruct umpires to ignore it (impossible) or actively work against it (dangerous ground). Add to the fact that Aussie Rules is a much more subjective game to officiate, and it's not a surprise it has an influence.

Also, teams play better at home, and make more mistakes away. I think this would account for some of the discrepancy as well.

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Davo Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #18

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In earlier rounds Fyfe used to break tackles and go on his merry way.

In most games recently, he's tried the same tactic and is caught holding the ball. It happened twice on the weekend.

He needs to wake up and realise the #7 is a target on his back now.
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rogerrocks Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #19

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If you have a look at this bit, you'll see an arm pressing blatantly down on Sandi's shoulder.

Wouldn't it be nice if the whistle blew and you heard the ump say "You've got your arm over his shoulder", and then Den Den said, "When will other ruckmen learn that just because Sandilands is bigger than them does not give them permission to break the rules?"
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snoop Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #20

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When at the game (haven't watched the replay yet) I thought most of the frees Sydney received were there.

It was the ones that were there that Freo didn't get was the problem.

I reckon we received two free kicks forward of centre*. Any inside 50?? We got about five frees right on the full back line*.

(*subject to watching the game again and keeping record).
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The_Yeti Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #21

The_Yeti
So how do explain the fact that Freo generally lose the free kick count by a considerable margin AT HOME? Don't go telling me thats home town calls.

How do you account for the fact that Campbell has 'no idea' why the free kick count is so badly skewed in favour of the particular teams, including his former team both home and away? Your arguments don't hold water.

If you want to concentrate on Fyfe tell me what a home town decision look like when he is taken down in full view of the umps and not even a word in Pyke's ear. I'll help you here, if it works against Freo its generally acceptable conduct.

I actually had a neighbour introduce himself as an AFL umpire and when he observed my Freo shirt he laughed and said "oh you won't like us".

But continue to ignore 90% of what I put to you
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DockerKnockers Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #22

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Yes and statistics like the following can also be easily explained/dismissed;

In games umpired by Jeff Dalgleish in 2014 & 2015 at Subiaco involving;
Freo: Lost the Free Kicks 9 out of 10 games.
WC: Won the Free Kicks 11 out of 11 games.
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shane Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #23

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Maybe they should have a medal for umpires. 3-2-1 votes given by the two captains each game.

You're ineligible if you mark the ball, don't hear the siren or ask the opposition defender whether the forward should have been given advantage or not.
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shane Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #24

shane
Obviously you'd name it after the great Henry Crapp.
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DockerKnockers Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #25

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Appropriately sponsored by the Toilet and the WeePoos.
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The_Yeti Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #26

The_Yeti
I think the weepoos withdrew their sponsorship after Friday night
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purple kit Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #27

purple kit
So as head of umpiring who has an umpire with a clear bias towards one of the two WA teams who lives in WA do you:
i) make him travel interstate every week so he doesn't officiate either WC or Freo games.
ii) make him travel every second weekend so he only officiates half of WC or Freo home games (seems to be happening now) or
iii) let him stay home every week and officiate every freo or WC game?
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goodie Lip service perhaps? 8 years 7 months ago #28

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That deliberate out of bounds given against hawthorn last friday night would have to be the best example of home crowd umpiring you could ever see. If you are incapable of withstanding the crowd in a simple scenario like that you should not be umpiring the next week.
I bet that umpire is picked this week.
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