TOPIC: The 'Freo Rule'

Dr Sleep The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #29

Dr Sleep
And god forbid, what it will do to the betting market! Because that's something important to factor in for a premiership run. Will be a sad day when the bookies can exert enough influence to effect who goes on the feild.
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somethingstupid The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #30

somethingstupid
I'm not a betting man, but an hour before Rd 23 in 2013, when I learnt that we'd given three quarters of the team the day off and the odds for a Freo win had skyrocketed, I gave serious thought to dumping a whole heap of cash on us to win, because, "Anyone, anywhere, anytime".

The moral of the story: it's a good thing I'm not a betting man. I'm not averse to taking guaranteed returns, though, so if there's anyone giving the slightest credence to the idea that Peel will beat Port this week, I'll happily take your money. Call it an act of community service in helping to minimise the profits of corporate bookies.
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Raglan Matt The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #31

Raglan Matt
The corporate bookies and punters should be given no consideration whatsoever. We have seen in other sports what betting can do in the corruption of sport and it is not needed in footy. The punters and bookies are taking their own risks and too bad if a team selects a less than optimal side as far as they are concerned.

If they are genuine form students, in framing their market and odds, and chances of a collect, they will allow for the fact that teams and conditions may change. The sad fact is most are just gamblers who want everything on a plate in front of them and may as well be hitting the pokies.
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purple kit The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #32

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In the Melbourne papers they are reporting that north melbourne are considering resting players this week, surely that contravenes the rules as it will affect the ladder positions and virtually garantees the crows will have to travel to melb two weeks in a row
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Davo The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #33

Davo
From a punter - the above two posters show you know absolutely nothing about it.

Real punters abhor roulette wheels and pokies.

Betting on sports is much different. I call it "Problem Solving for Profit". And there is profit if you are well enough informed and are a good decision maker.
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shane The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #34

shane
Forget the bookies. Port Adelaide supporters paid full price for their ticket to go and watch an AFL game of football. Once the AFL took their money, there is an obligation to make sure the event goes ahead reasonably close to the way it was promoted.

The AFL should have to give the Port Adelaide members five dollars for every player that Fremantle rest.
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zorro The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #35

zorro
My problem with this is the position it puts Port in. Surely it's unfair that one team has different conditions applied to its selection etc than the other.

If Port were to make 11 changes they'd be accused of tanking to drop from 9th to (potentially) 12th with the advantages that flow from that, and yet their opponents (us) are able to make those changes which will materially affect the result of the game.

The AFL should also allow Port to make up to eleven changes if they want. That would give both sides an "even playing field" and, in the process, give some real interest to supporters because of the chance to see a pile of fringe and developing players on both sides seeking to make an impression in an even, competitive game.
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shane The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #36

shane
Why would Port Adelaide want to make 11 changes?
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docker_man The 'Freo' Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #37

docker_man
$55 per Port fan, Shane?

The South Australian economy isn't prepared for that kind of influx.
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rogerrocks The 'Freo Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #38

rogerrocks
Nah, Zorro. We've earned the right to rest players. They haven't earned the right to drop to 12th.
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bpurple The 'Freo Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #39

bpurple
I think the Port Adelaide club may be in for a bit of a surprise. The players likely to get a game this week are Z Clarke, Ed Langdon, Connor Blakely (if his ankle is OK), Lachie Weller, Max Duffy, Alex Pearce, Tabs, Hannath, Ballard ?, Crozier, Sheridan and Tanner Smith.
Not bad replacements and one thing is for sure they will have plenty of run.
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Morgan The 'Freo Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #40

Morgan
At times, the AFL are a bunch of gutless squibs. Every time someone in the media breathlessly utters ‘not a good look for the game’ they feel the need to react. Which is why we have such a useless rule – they need to be seen to be doing something about it.

There’s no incentive for Freo to take their best team. It’s no-one’s fault, it’s just a necessary consequence of giving the trophy to the winning team in a Grand Final, not the best team in round 23. Yeah, it’s not ideal for Port fans, but neither is missing the finals. One of those things was within Port’s control.

It’s probably in Port’s interest to lose. That’s the AFL’s fault for incentivising losing by awarding a better pick to a team that has lost more games. The AFL could do something about that. There are a number of options, but setting the draft order at round 17 – once each team has played each other - would be a very simple way to do this. But they haven’t, so they have to make a rule so that the AFL and clubs can been seen to be acting with integrity and trying to win every game.

Meanwhile, problems like the inequality of the draw that genuinely affect the outcome of a season get swept under the carpet. Is Port playing a weakened team in round 23 really a bigger deal than certain teams playing Carlton or Brisbane twice?

Also, the AFL consistently disregards our travel concerns, which means sometimes we have to take mitigation into our own hands. Our options really only extend to giving more rest to players.

Hopefully it’s a nice sunny day in Adelaide, families get to have a watered down beer and an overpriced hotdog, enjoy each other’s company as their team smashes an understrength team, and they can talk about how Port can improve next year. There are worse ways to spend an afternoon.
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shane The 'Freo Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #41

shane
Incentivising? Morgan Chaddington is it?
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DaPav The 'Freo Rule' 4 years 1 month ago #42

DaPav
I notice we are the only team in the top 4 that travels in the last round. Sort that **** AFL and resting half the team might not happen.
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