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docker_man What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #15

docker_man
I think the real question is:

Are the Dockers a better side with Sandilands and Griffin playing in the same team?

I think it's yes. Will it solve all of our problems? No.
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shane What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #16

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I think what Guy Smiley is trying to say is 'Yes, I didn't rate Griffin but look! A bear!'
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Raglan Matt What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #17

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I)It will solve more than it presents. Strangely enough I think Griff/Sandi offers more options and variation than Clarke/Sandi. Mainly because Griff is a more capable ruckman than Clarke, and Sandi or Griff forward allows more physicality and inferred pressure on opposition backmen than does Clarke.
ii)The option of banging it forward under pressure to a big mark like Sandi or Griff will come into it's own when the weather conditions improve. Is it my imagination, or was the fact that Sandi was able to get free and go 1 on 1 for marks last night with no-one able to chop his arms a factor in the marks he took?
iii) Would Freo have scored another 3 or 4 goals if the "not disposing of the ball correctly" rule was correctly applied in the Freo forward 50. The one where Touhy was spun 720 degrees in a tackle then proceeded to kick the ball over the boundary in the direction he intended to kick it, sparked much debate among the idiots behind the mikes about whether it could possibly have been deliberate. They spent no time however discussing whether a free should have been paid for "holding the ball" ( I know that is not the correct term but it is the one we all know)
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guy smiley What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #18

guy smiley
Rubbish I didn't rate Griff.
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pollyanna What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #19

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I did - sitting in the city end his effort around the ground was quite impressive. Griff is ready to go and is a first rate ruck/big man.

I must say (as well) that Sheridan seems to be settling into the team - I thought last night was his best game with us. But looking at the stats from the magoos, you have to be impressed with what is coming up - Connor, Langdon, Hughes are all biting at the bit; Tanner Smith looks recovered and ready for the bigs; Clancee was dominant with 40 disposals, 11 marks and 6 inside 50s. We have strength back there - I think Griff was the first indication that we are looking good for the medium term.
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darthmarto What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #20

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Think Shane's using Guy as a bear for calling out the Clark / Griff bear potential to distract from Shane labelling Mayne a crab.

When clearly the elephant in the room is Zu being the goat.
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DougGreen What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #21

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After hearing RL talking about "taggers coming off black and blue" and given that we have a plethora of half back/midfield types in our 2nd tier players .....wouldn't it be good to see some of the toe rags currently giving Fyfe and Hill a hard time get smashed. I mean seriously smashed in the old fashioned Solly way. Suban, Pearce C, Pig etc should be prepared to take a week or 2 suspension for the team.
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Morgan What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #22

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McPharlin, Ibbo, Spurr, Sutcliffe and A Pearce. Good players, but not an above-average kick amongst them. Those are the blokes currently entrusted with launching counter-attacks from defence. If people think some of us overestimate Johnno's importance, watch closely those blokes trying to move the ball from defence in his absence. It's grim. Duff looked calcified last week, but at least he can kick a footy.

Griff was ok, but if Hendrix only had 7 touches against a rubbish side people would be questioning his effort (Zac had 9 against Hawthorn, for example).

I'm glad people see something in Tabs, because for the life of me I don't.

ballas going off with an injury would have caused me a great deal of concern last year. Last night, I was wondering whether our production would dip at all. I hope the little champ is ok and finds some form.

Our midfield is so good that against a rubbish side they don't need to get out of second gear, but they'll need to find an extra one against Hawthorn.

How good is Hilly when he can just play footy! Our other midfielders owe him for wearing the tag most weeks.
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rocky333 What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #23

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I really don't think tabs will make it,hope im wrong but you cant go for marks then just miss the ball,wonder if he should go to spec savers
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gidgegary What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #24

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I'm still firmly hitched to the Taberner bandwagon and I am surprised that such an esteemed judge as Morgan cannot see the potential here. I was hugely impressed with Tabs' effort last night. Some big leaps, crashing the packs hard. Most of those marking attempts didn't come off, but sooner or later those grabs will start to stick. It might be 2016 before he sticks them, so don't write him off just because he drops marks. What he does do is bring the ball to ground to give the smalls some work to do. That's what we want from him isn't it? I love the way he works up the ground on a long lead, and he did take some creditable chest marks from passes that never got more than a metre off the ground. And a raking left foot kick. Big body that frees up Pav by attracting a big defender. What's not to get excited about?
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docker_man What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #25

docker_man
You can keep saying the side will improve with MJ back in the side (and it will), but reality is that injuries happen and we won't have our best 22 for many weeks of the season, if any.

We do lack an elite kick from half-back, but surely that's Stephen Hill's job. Hilly might not be a great one-on-one defender, but he could be the bloke receiving those handballs of McPharlin and the likes down back.

MJ was out for the finals last year and we folded. Got to have a good plan B and possibly plan C.
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snoop What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #26

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Tabs was much better last night. Needs to keep his feet as well. He'll get there.
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thecheg What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #27

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Yarran's performance last night was soporific. He's all class but he looked as if he needed somebody to nudge him awake when the ball came anywhere near him: never looked engaged, hardly rose above a jog, scarcely raised a sweat. Definitely needs a new challenge, like injecting pace and precise foot-passing into our backline when his contract is up.
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Drubbing What I learnt: Round 16 9 years 1 month ago #28

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Griffin and Sandi rotated duties in the ruck and FF, so I think there is room for both. I think it was one of the few things that seemed to work well. Mind you roly had Pavlich in the centre for part of the game so I have no idea what his thinking is these days.
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