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TOPIC: List management

shane List management 5 years 3 months ago #15

shane
I don' think that's a good comparison. Pearce was probably kept on for a bit of depth when they did't know where things were headed.

I'm sure about keeping Sandilands on the books before seeing if there was an option in the trade period. I know there were a lot of balls in the air but we have Lobb and we won't play two ruckmen. If Taberner is going to be playing and Lobb is in the ruck, Sandilands will be at Peel after Round 10.

You get these little unwanted contracts building up and you lose good players but you're also restricting in the speculative players, like Michael Barlow or Lachie Neale because you don't have the spots to take a chance.

Hopefully it is a smart gamble but it is a gamble.
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shane List management 5 years 3 months ago #16

shane
Yeti, how many times did we kick it to Tabs for those marks. It's a bit like Nathon Lyon getting a lot of wickets when they give him 600 overs a match and he gets belted for 5000 runs.
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Raglan Matt List management 5 years 3 months ago #17

Raglan Matt
Lyon got a couple of extensions to his contract with a far inferior performance record.
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darthmarto List management 5 years 3 months ago #18

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Part of the confusion might be because we’ve not realised the club are planning on turning Tabs into a midfielder ...
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purple kit List management 5 years 3 months ago #19

purple kit
I actually think they are thinking more of turning Hogan into Pav mk2 and allowing him to go start in the centre square with Fyfe and Mundy to really intimidate opp Mids, leaving Tabs and Lobb as forward talls.
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teasea List management 5 years 3 months ago #20

teasea
Or is Hogans injury more than they are letting on.
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mac List Management 5 years 3 months ago #21

mac
The start of the 2018 Tabs was on fire with taking strong contested marks on the wings and just outside fifty.
I was devastated when he limped off early round five not to return for several months to play the last four games.

It's crazy that players who have knee ailments and feet injuries ain't managed better and made to finish the season early if theres nothing to play for.
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shane List Management 5 years 3 months ago #22

shane
On fire is a bit over the top. He played 4 full games. Kicked 4 goals in one game and then a total of 1 for the other 3.
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Morgan List Management 5 years 3 months ago #23

Morgan
It makes sense as a signing, especially if you consider the alternative of letting his contract expire at the end of the season.

It’s a live question whether you can play all three of Hogan, Tabs and Lobb. But for it to be an issue you probably need those three to be fit all season, as well as Hodor. If any one of those four get a long-term injury, suspension or a huge form dip, then having that depth is very helpful. A few clubs have been talking up bigger forward lines, so we’ll see how that unfolds.

If those four are fit and in ripping form then you might have a selection issue, but you can probably rotate players a little bit and it’s not the worst issue to have. If for some reason Tabs was playing well but still not getting a regular game, then at 25 and still with two years left on his contract he becomes a reasonable trade piece. There are plenty of teams in Melbourne who would be interested in a KPP coming back to Victoria.

I think that’s a better outcome than letting his contract expire and running the risk of him walking to another club for little-to-nothing to show for a lot of development time, or if he has a great season inflating his value. He was in pretty good form to start last year, and obviously they have taken a look at him again this pre-season and felt pretty positively.

I also like that Tabs was willing to commit to Freo. He hasn’t been an automatic selection, some other options have been recruited, and he’s still willing to be tied to the club for a while longer. Some might view that sort of thing as a positive.
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rogerrocks List management 5 years 3 months ago #24

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What can you do with a big player who is a great contested mark and can run? Well, WC play McGovern down back and everyone thinks its genius. I'd rather Tabs play forward, but defence is an option too. He's a player who you'd feel like and absolute dill if he went to another club.
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Corporal Agarn List Management 5 years 3 months ago #25

Corporal Agarn
The slime managed three talls in their forward line very well. Kennedy, Darling, Vardy/Natanui/Lycett.

Of course they did like to keep at least two of them in the forward line most of the time, left one on one with an opponent and not all around the centre running back with the ball.
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shane List Management 5 years 3 months ago #26

shane
I don't accept the premise of your argument, Morgan, that the two options are signing him now or letting his contract expire at the end of the season. It's nonsense.
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Morgan List Management 5 years 3 months ago #27

Morgan
Of course there are other options. The obvious one is to leave his contact status unresolved at the start of the season and see how it plays out over the year. Clubs generally avoid that one as it means the media start speculating, and it can lead to a player worrying too much about his own performance and less about the team. I think that would be particularly destructive where you are trying to get three big forwards to work together and when they are in competition for spots. Some degree of sacrifice from the three is to be expected in those circumstances, and it’s asking a lot of a player to think about the good of the team when the club is refusing to commit to the player.

I just don’t think that’s a great option. Is there something I’ve missed? Perhaps a one-year extension? Without knowing the terms of the deal, players are often willing to take a bit of a pay cut for the security of a multi-year deal. Also, if he was offered only another year Tabs might have decided to see how things play out, hoping to push for a second. Which leaves you with the issues above.

There are a few things at play, but I think securing for a few years is a good outcome. Hopefully Tabs takes his chance and we’ve locked him in at a good price. If he sucks you’ve got your first cudgel to bludgeon Micallef and Bell with.

Which way would you have gone shane?
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themagoos List management 5 years 3 months ago #28

themagoos
Whoever convinced Tabs to play footy should be ashamed of themselves. He might've been one of the all-time great Morris dancers.
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