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TOPIC: Jesse Hogan and Slappo

rogerrocks Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #57

rogerrocks
Now I'm not going to do it, but clearly what is needed is a graph. The x-axis is km travelled in the air, and the y-axis is number of AFL games played. A negative correlation for higher km travelled would support Fre-doh's (correct) hypothesis.
Of course it would still only show correlation.
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hypen Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #58

hypen
What's the correlation between flying and playing like a spastic?
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purple kit Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #59

purple kit
Did Jacko realise that Melborne just let Hogan fly to Perth and back mid week to try to keep him happy?

if they keep that up he'll fly more than the 10 times he has to as a Freo player and will have a shorter career at the Dees.

he really is that stupid isn't he!
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ChewyBoot Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #60

ChewyBoot
Apparently Brian Peake flew out and back from Perth each week the first year he played for Geelong.
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Drubbing Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #61

Drubbing
If Slapovich had the same oxygen that this thread has had, he's could have played another 50 games.

Unfortunately for him, he just got too crap.
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guy smiley Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #62

guy smiley
The correlation between flying and playing like a spastic?

Well, all I can say there is I get off every plane like a spastic. But I drive like Fangio. I think that counts.
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fourthump Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #63

fourthump
It's not east-west travel travel frequency or duration we should be focusses on ... the big bucks should be spent to determine whether Dockers are Larks or Owls.

According to Inside Science, a 2014 study of U.K. origins had some interesting results if you're into that kind of thing and, in part, said: "They found that each chronotype had a different pattern of performance, with the best and worst performances coming at different times. Most strikingly, night owls performed very poorly in the early morning, on average about 26 percent worse than their peak level."


serious types discuss here
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Jooter Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #64

Jooter
Corporal Agarn, in the US, each professional sports team plays the same number of games at home and away. They do it slightly differently though: In the NBA, you could have a string of home games, followed by a string of away games. In the NFL, it's home then away, home then away. In Major League Baseball, each team plays a home stand (a few games against the same team) followed by an away stand (a few games against the away team). These sorts of schedules ensure that all teams travel essentially the same number of miles, to keep things things fair. Compare that to the AFL, where the Melbourne-based teams travel far less than the interstate teams. I remember a couple of years ago when the Magpies travelled to Perth to play Freo and the banner read "Well seasoned travellers" or something like that to trick the players into the mindset that all the teams travel the same amount. Hogwash. Of bloody course, travel affects the body. No question whatsoever.

Granted, that for NBA, the teams travel around in private jets. I don't know if that's the case for the NFL or MLB.
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Jooter Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #65

Jooter
BTW, a few years ago, I did hear of a proposal that the WA-based teams would fly on private jets and that the costs would essentially be covered by Freo and the Weagles. The proposal was tossed out by the AFL citing the travel contracts that were in place with Qantas (first) then Virgin (now). In my mind, it was probably nixed because the Melbourne-based teams wouldn't get the same 'advantage' when it came to away-travel because it wouldn't be cost-effective given that they travel interstate so rarely. So, even if the WA-based teams somehow had their own plane to take them back and forth, the AFL wouldn't have allowed it. If I'm correct, the only time that Freo flew on a chartered flight was to the 2013 GF; players, along with their family members.

Part of the issue with travel and sport is that it is important to fly out whenever you want to or need to, and not be slaved to the airlines' schedules.

What's interesting is that neither team has put any money in organising semi-permanent accommodation in Melbourne to kind of keep the regularity of their own residences, but in Melbourne.
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Jooter Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #66

Jooter
One final point from me about travel. When I say of course it bloody makes a difference, consider this: Two teams make the GF. One is a Melbourne-based team; the other is an interstate team that needs to fly out on a Thursday. But, for some reason - weather, airport strike, anything - the interstate team had troubles so that they needed to fly to Singapore, then Dubai, then from Dubai direct to Melbourne. The interstate team finally arrive in Melbourne an hour before the GF starts. It's a hypothetical, for sure, but answer this question based on the hypothetical: which team is the prohibitive favourite?

Beware of any footy commentator who states that travel doesn't make a difference to performance, and that if you lose, it's because you weren't good enough, not because of travel circumstances. In getting to the GF in 2013 I knew of people who had to fly Perth-Singapore-Melbourne and were essentially 'wrecked' by the time they got to the game. Last year, when the Weagles made the GF, I heard of fans who flew from Perth to Melbourne, except they went Perth-Sydney-Auckland-Melbourne. The key to any travel is fairness in the amount of travel that any team does, which is why Melbourne-based teams will fight like hell to keep the status quo. The AFL: it's not a national game; it never was, it never will be, so long as 10 of the 18 clubs are based in one city. BTW, want to start an argument? Just say that the MCC contract should be broken and the GF should be rotated to all stadiums immediately. The argument from the MCC (and probably the AFL) is that they would lose revenue. Rubbish. Say the GF was played at Subi oval with the Weagles vs Freo. What Weagles or Freo fan wouldn't part with serious money to attend that game. I paid $300+ for my GF ticket at the MCG in 2013. I'd happily pay $1000+ for a ticket to a Freo/Weagles GF at Subi Oval. Lose money? BS. Melbourne-based teams would howl like stuck pigs is more like it.
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somethingstupid Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #67

somethingstupid
Jooter, organising semi-permanent accommodation in Melbourne would make sense, if we played there more than 5 times a season.
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ADWFREO Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #68

ADWFREO
Scott Cummings complaint about flying affecting his back is laughable.

His bad back was caused by carrying a huge fat gut from his donut diet.
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Drubbing Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #69

Drubbing
That's slanderous. It was a donut, bourbon and coke diet. He stuck to it like the professional he was.
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Raglan Matt Jesse Hogan and Slappo 8 years 5 months ago #70

Raglan Matt
Freo would be better off getting accommodation in Launceston and Sydney, it seems to be the AwFL's preffered destinations for us.
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